NVIDIA Announces The GeForce GTX 1060, Linux Tests Happening

[dungeon]

AMDGPU-PRO definitely has no HEVC Main 10 nor does Nvidia support it. Would like to know if it really works - the mesa code has it active.

So in whole and definitely no driver has that support. There is no pushover for it i guess, at this time in current universum

[Kano]

AMDGPU-PRO definitely has no HEVC Main 10 nor does Nvidia support it. Would like to know if it really works - the mesa code has it active.

[dungeon]

No idea why british ppl should prefer AMD

I guess because availbility and prices, RX 480 sells like hot cakes there

But Nvidia could produce a GTX 1050 too. I would like to get an AMD card too, but not necessary a RX 480, something small with Polaris 11 would be enough to try HEVC Main 10 and AMDGPU.

So AMD will release even cheaper RX 470 and RX 460, i guess you want RX 460 for $99... altough hevc main10 is not yet supported by drivers AFAIK.

It all depends on purpose, for HTPC i would certainly prefer all open stack because one AMD UVD dev is german

So you prefer opensource driver for some purpose because dev is german, otherwise not?

Well on that vdpau point I don't understand preferable purpose and to even care about which driver to use as vdpau should work the same on amdgpu and amdgpu-pro drivers, it is same thing really so should work with whatever driver Amdgpu driver is really just one driver, just two variants of it, one non-pro and one pro or whatever people like to say - all-open and pro or variant A and variant B or more-open and more-closed

[Kano]

No idea why british ppl should prefer AMD, all huge IT companies are from the USA. Windows users might buy the cheapest (aka 4 GB RX 480) if available - for 1080p 4 GB should be enough. But Nvidia could produce a GTX 1050 too. I would like to get an AMD card too, but not necessary a RX 480, something small with Polaris 11 would be enough to try HEVC Main 10 and AMDGPU. It all depends on purpose, for HTPC i would certainly prefer all open stack because one AMD UVD dev is german Usually you would prefer integrated gfx for that but there is nothing available with HEVC Main 10 - or did you see Stoney yet? Maybe available before Kaby Lake.

[dungeon]

With gfxdetect I can do the same - switching to oss or binary depending on the card and doing nothing manually. I am pretty sure I replace cards more often than you do for testing. But i can not test AMDGPU yet due to missing card. Ubuntu has a more complicated (over 10000 lines) detect code which should be able to do configure preinstalled drivers too. And with your Mesa example: it won't work out of the box until a new mesa/kernel is officially released, not sure if kernel 4.7 is enough and a distro ships it (for AMD you need new LLVM too which is a bit problematic for backports). Maybe next year AMDGPU can be used for GCN 1.0 parts too then AMDGPU-PRO drivers can be used for those too if needed. If you are no gamer why would you buy a 200+ $/€ card? If you are why should you pay more for a less compatible/slower card? Do you think game devs switch over to AMD soon as first target? Don't forget you could certainly get cheaper used GTX 9xx cards too for upgrades.

I feel like that now after BREXIT, non-german/ic people will more buy AMD products... what you think about that?

[Passso]

Bleah... two posts eaten, third post auto-moderated. I bet this post goes through just fine since it has no useful content...

EDIT - yep

NVidia sent a new card so Michael is trying to mute you

[Passso]

I don't think there should be any doubt that Nvidia will win hands down with the closed drivers.
More than performance is a matter of driver choice.

Personally I'd go with the rx 480 since I'm terribly enjoying mesa drivers.
While the don't offer the best performance, they're still good enough and I never get an issue of stability with them.
Something I couldn't say neither with fglrx or nvidia closed drivers.

On windows they should perform equally despite the Nvidia marketing slides (yes marketing lies..)

Well everyone can pick his own criterias, this is freedom

I like AMD but the deceived me twice in the past because of bad drivers. I even sent back a card to reseller a couple years ago...
On the other hand my nvidia cards always worked day-1.

Anyway AMD put some real efforts recently, so if they now come with good performance I will buy their products again.

[Kano]

With gfxdetect I can do the same - switching to oss or binary depending on the card and doing nothing manually. I am pretty sure I replace cards more often than you do for testing. But i can not test AMDGPU yet due to missing card. Ubuntu has a more complicated (over 10000 lines) detect code which should be able to do configure preinstalled drivers too. And with your Mesa example: it won't work out of the box until a new mesa/kernel is officially released, not sure if kernel 4.7 is enough and a distro ships it (for AMD you need new LLVM too which is a bit problematic for backports). Maybe next year AMDGPU can be used for GCN 1.0 parts too then AMDGPU-PRO drivers can be used for those too if needed. If you are no gamer why would you buy a 200+ $/€ card? If you are why should you pay more for a less compatible/slower card? Do you think game devs switch over to AMD soon as first target? Don't forget you could certainly get cheaper used GTX 9xx cards too for upgrades.

[fuzz]

Here at Linux, we don't bend over backwards for anyone. We have morals. We run open source code. We follow specifications because we have to work with them as a community.

At the end of the day, just plugging in a new piece of hardware, booting up my OS and having it work out of the box with my entire software stack is the very enablement of a dream.

#betterred

[Kano]

It is interesting to see so many positive comments about the RX 480 because if you think of raw performance especially for games without PTS profiles which are not or rarely benchmarked by devs with AMD cards. A good Mesa driver is certainly nice to have but depending on the distribution used more or less hard to update. AMDGPU-PRO seems to be not really the holy grail yet for Linux gamers as it too much relies on profiles which can not yet modified manually - could certainly help if there would be a community database. Nvidia binary will be most likely the main target for new ports for a while. Looking forward for the new GTX 1060 benchmarks, the specs look very nice...