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Originally posted by deanjo View PostAll depends on the implementation of the BIOS.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostThere is a difference between code to support the blob and code to give preference to the blob.
Do you have examples where they turned down patches that were needed to support features on anything other than its technical merits?
And I am not exactly clear on how GPL makes optimus impossible.
Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostGTK, Qt, and KDE are all in the process of getting wayland support working.
Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostI was under the impression it had more to do with how the hardware was built, with proper support requiring a building an extra, separate hardware pathway for the Nvidia card which very few companies appear to be willing to do (with such implementations being mostly limited to enterprise-level laptops).
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostThere is no difference. It was a simple situation where if the blob was installed it would use it otherwise utilize the free drivers if no blob was installed.
Originally posted by deanjo View PostPretty much every feature that the blob provides. By turning down the above mentioned patch they essentially knocked out all the features of it as well.
Are you seriously arguing that picking a default value is somehow equivalent to eliminating features? You do realize that people can still use Nvidia cards just fine even if they aren't the default, right?
Originally posted by deanjo View PostThe greatest difficulty would more then likely having to interface with KMS (which as we know is a big no no because of the GPL licensing). You are also dealing with multiple memory manager between the two video devices.
Originally posted by deanjo View PostThat still doesn't mean much.
Originally posted by deanjo View PostUntil the day that Wayland is poised to replace X it isn't a pressing matter.
Nvidia always waits until the last second on these things, and then it takes months or even years to get caught up, leaving users stranded in the meantime. It is exactly the philosophy you are espousing here that Nvidia needs to change. They do this every time, and every time it causes no end of problems to users.
Originally posted by deanjo View PostI see what your getting at, you are referring to the crappy implementations that vendors like Asus and Sony use where they hardwire the IGP to the display. This is true however not ever vendor of optimus graphics out there does this.
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostThe greatest difficulty would more then likely having to interface with KMS (which as we know is a big no no because of the GPL licensing). You are also dealing with multiple memory manager between the two video devices.
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Originally posted by Qaridarium View Postmy english really fails here...sorry. amd really hiring more opensource devs really!
but yes if i need the functionality i use the amd cloused source driver to.
means i'm not against the the nvidia cloused source driver i'm just against there Politic about: not give the opensource guys a chance by support with spec's.
Originally posted by Qaridarium View Postreally Fusion beats tegra in all ways...
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostI don't think that this would be a good idea, for several reasons:
- 3rd party code
- patented software
- it would be an island separate from everything else in Linux land like it is now. Much of the nouveau core is well designed and efficient, it's just missing the countless optimisations across the board. A HUGE driver which reimplements all of Mesa, most of X, and the entire linux kernel would be impossible for most OSS hackers to understand, let alone improve on.
The best way would be to support nouveau with documentation (most important) and developers.
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