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  • #31
    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
    And so AMD's plans aren't nearly as PURE as a lot of you seem to presume.
    And do they need Coreboot for that as well?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
      The only reason AMD opened up is because ATI kept such a lousy track record in the past.
      Actually that's not right... the work which led to the more recent improvements in fglrx started almost a year before we made the decision to restart open source graphics driver support. The primary reasons were (a) some of AMD's CPU customers (OEMs) pushed very hard for open source graphics support, and (b) having both CPU and GPU businesses meant that the worst-case scenarios linked to offering open source GPU documentation and code would be unlikely to kill the company.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by bridgman View Post
        some of AMD's CPU customers (OEMs) pushed very hard for open source graphics support
        May I ask who?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
          I think you just don't like the fact that nvidia has been and will continue to be the flagship hardware/driver provider for most causal Linux users.
          Then your thinking is very wrong. Fanboyism is down the street to the left.

          Nvidia doesn't need open source drivers to get Linux market share so way even bother... The only reason AMD opened up is because ATI kept such a lousy track record in the past.
          Yup, mindless fanboy right behind the corner.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
            May I ask who?
            No, sorry. To be more precise, you can ask but since they were confidential discussions I'm not going to say anything here.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by bridgman View Post
              No, sorry. To be more precise, you can ask but since they were confidential discussions I'm not going to say anything here.
              OK Too bad...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                Actually that's not right... the work which led to the more recent improvements in fglrx started almost a year before we made the decision to restart open source graphics driver support. The primary reasons were (a) some of AMD's CPU customers (OEMs) pushed very hard for open source graphics support, and (b) having both CPU and GPU businesses meant that the worst-case scenarios linked to offering open source GPU documentation and code would be unlikely to kill the company.
                Noted...

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                • #38
                  There were certainly a few people arguing internally that proprietary drivers should die Die DIE !!! but that was not the basis for the final decision.

                  The primary objective was to let distros offer a really good out-of-box experience when installing on a typical PC, which was hard to do with proprietary drivers.
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                  • #39
                    There were certainly a few people arguing internally that proprietary drivers should die Die DIE !!!
                    Lol, those must have been entertaining meetings.

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                    • #40
                      Yeah, they were. The hard part was that everyone had good reasons for saying what they did. Linux is used in a lot of different markets, often having totally different requirements and priorities, so the "obvious choice" for one market may seem totally insane in the eyes of someone familiar with a different part of the Linux market.

                      The great thing is that everyone was able to converge on a common plan in the end, and that we're all still talking to each other
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