NVIDIA Announces The GeForce RTX 50 "Blackwell" Series

[qarium]

No, I do comprehend.
IT"S JUST THAT!!!! Other than main stream AMD GPU's the GPU's you are talking about besides the W series? There's not a whole lot of information floating around about the "V" series, let alone an easy way to purchase them even if one has the money.
Sorry man, don't have to read all the rest of that technical info on those, as I will most likely never need to use or want to own one.
I don't get paid to work in IT and thank god I don't, if I did I would have to be a independent contracter, or a consultant, avoiding
all the drama. Not really interested in anything under that industry umbrella anyways. Computers are just a hobby and I'd like to keep it that way.
Now if S.N.L. 'Not Saturday Night Live!' had some sort of training program and I was offered a position as a shoe in, I'd seriously jump on that opportunity, that's not the case though. Plus people that work for those labs are so outrageously intelligent, which I'm obviously not! Nor do I have any sort of credintials like a PhD in anything or am outstanding in anything. The best of the best work at places like that anyway, usually extremely privileged people, privileged in their upbringing, privileged finacially, privileged in their connections, privileged in their genes, privileged in their lot in life.

that AMD's PR (Public relationship) for the PRO V series is a complete failure is no secret.

nearly no one knows the V series even exist..

[creative]

no you do not understand... i do not talk about Vega...

AMD has cloud cards they call it the V line and V stands for Virtualisation and the PRO W series has no virtualisation features.

the V line features this: AMD MxGPU technology, based on SR-IOV (Single Root I/O Virtualization)

see here:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/accelerators/radeon-pro.html

they call it " AMD Radeon™ PRO V Accelerators"

they put it under the "Cloud Graphics" options on their website

"The AMD Radeon™ PRO V accelerators are high-performance GPUs that enable high performance game streaming, virtual desktop, and machine learning workloads on public and private cloud. Radeon PRO V GPU accelerators support SR-IOV hardware virtualization for secure, affordable instances available on the world’s leading cloud services, including Microsoft Azure and Amazon Web Services (AWS)."

you see my AMD PRO W7900 is expensive and nice and all but honestly its not the flagship product from the viewpoint of feature set...

insted the PRO V line is the one with the maximum feature-set

No, I do comprehend.


IT"S JUST THAT!!!! Other than main stream AMD GPU's the GPU's you are talking about besides the W series? There's not a whole lot of information floating around about the "V" series, let alone an easy way to purchase them even if one has the money.

Sorry man, don't have to read all the rest of that technical info on those, as I will most likely never need to use or want to own one.

I don't get paid to work in IT and thank god I don't, if I did I would have to be a independent contracter, or a consultant, avoiding
all the drama. Not really interested in anything under that industry umbrella anyways. Computers are just a hobby and I'd like to keep it that way.

Now if S.N.L. 'Not Saturday Night Live!' had some sort of training program and I was offered a position as a shoe in, I'd seriously jump on that opportunity, that's not the case though. Plus people that work for those labs are so outrageously intelligent, which I'm obviously not! Nor do I have any sort of credintials like a PhD in anything or am outstanding in anything. The best of the best work at places like that anyway, usually extremely privileged people, privileged in their upbringing, privileged finacially, privileged in their connections, privileged in their genes, privileged in their lot in life.

[ssokolow]

it has nothing to do with "modern AAA games" because the same games do not use AVX2 under windows

its wine and proton who use this AVX2 functionality to translate windows game calls into linux calls.

Good thing the HP prebuilt is running Windows 7 so I don't have to wrestle with annoying papercuts in Wine then.

[qarium]

You assume I want to run modern AAA games. Despite my main PC being Zen 4 Ryzen from 2023 now, I generally play my games on a repurposed HP prebuilt from 2012 with a Radeon HD 5870 from 2009, because I don't need anything faster and putting them on a separate machine, KVMed in, means that I don't have to worry about things like "game pauses on losing focus, making it annoying to scroll a PDF on one of the other monitors.)

it has nothing to do with "modern AAA games" because the same games do not use AVX2 under windows

its wine and proton who use this AVX2 functionality to translate windows game calls into linux calls.

[qarium]

You talking about Vega? When it comes to modern AMD workstation cards the PRO W series is all I see. If that's the case Vega 64 even was limited to 8GB VRAM.
Ah wait no, Radeon Pro Vega II Duo had 2x32GB of HBM2. That was top of the line then nearly 6K. That thing might as well been a server blade of some sort.
Anyway, I can talk out my ass at times.

no you do not understand... i do not talk about Vega...

AMD has cloud cards they call it the V line and V stands for Virtualisation and the PRO W series has no virtualisation features.

the V line features this: AMD MxGPU technology, based on SR-IOV (Single Root I/O Virtualization)

see here:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/accelerators/radeon-pro.html

they call it " AMD Radeon™ PRO V Accelerators"

they put it under the "Cloud Graphics" options on their website

"The AMD Radeon™ PRO V accelerators are high-performance GPUs that enable high performance game streaming, virtual desktop, and machine learning workloads on public and private cloud. Radeon PRO V GPU accelerators support SR-IOV hardware virtualization for secure, affordable instances available on the world’s leading cloud services, including Microsoft Azure and Amazon Web Services (AWS)."

you see my AMD PRO W7900 is expensive and nice and all but honestly its not the flagship product from the viewpoint of feature set...

insted the PRO V line is the one with the maximum feature-set

[ssokolow]

ssokolow What you are talking about is a dev station than, not really an entertainment box. If it's both you have modest wants.

The latter. As I said in my previous comment, I don't use my Ryzen for gaming much because I don't need to and two PCs on a KVM gives me advantages.

[ssokolow]

i still hade people who i support who had AMD FX8350 we discovered that many games demand AVX2 in wine and proton..this was the reason why i did decommissioned these old systems and put them into recycling bin.

your cpu should have AVX2 at minimum. if your cpu only has AVX instead of AVX2 you will run into many problems.

You assume I want to run modern AAA games. Despite my main PC being Zen 4 Ryzen from 2023 now, I generally play my games on a repurposed HP prebuilt from 2012 with a Radeon HD 5870 from 2009, because I don't need anything faster and putting them on a separate machine, KVMed in, means that I don't have to worry about things like "game pauses on losing focus, making it annoying to scroll a PDF on one of the other monitors.)

[creative]

i should have bought the V line instead of W line because of the Single Root I/O Virtualization (SR-IOV) functionality.

You talking about Vega? When it comes to modern AMD workstation cards the PRO W series is all I see. If that's the case Vega 64 even was limited to 8GB VRAM.

Ah wait no, Radeon Pro Vega II Duo had 2x32GB of HBM2. That was top of the line then nearly 6K. That thing might as well been a server blade of some sort.

Anyway, I can talk out my ass at times.

[qarium]

Honestly, I'm so used to finding or writing more efficient replacement software that the straw that broke the camel's back was actually that the 3060 allowed me to putter around with Stable Diffusion and, while Easy Diffusion runs fine on an Athlon II X2 270, other Stable Diffusion stuff demonstrates just how hair-tearingly difficult it is to figure out how to transplant an AVX-less build of Tensorflow into an Anaconda environment if you've never used Anaconda before.
If I'd been running an Intel CPU from 2011 instead, I'd probably have AVX and still be running a CPU from 2011.

i still hade people who i support who had AMD FX8350 we discovered that many games demand AVX2 in wine and proton..this was the reason why i did decommissioned these old systems and put them into recycling bin.

your cpu should have AVX2 at minimum. if your cpu only has AVX instead of AVX2 you will run into many problems.

[qarium]

At any rate spending lots of money on hardware isn't such a terrible thing if the value of what you are getting seems alright, especially if it's a hobby you feel very strong about, for me, it's not just a hobby, it's a way of life. I built my first PC before I even had a drivers license so you can only imagine what my priorities always were, cause I always loved gaming and computers.
For me GNU Linux made computers even more interesting.

yes thats nice. for me the same i also did build my own computers many years before i had car driving license.