NVIDIA 565.77 Linux Driver Released As First Stable R565 Build

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  • IanW
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 25

    #11
    It's already been pushed out to users of CachyOS

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    • dragon321
      Senior Member
      • May 2016
      • 873

      #12
      Originally posted by DanL View Post
      I'm surprised they haven't split off Maxwell/Pascal into a legacy branch yet.
      They kinda did, open source kernel module is Turing and newer only and since 560 it’s recommended for supported GPUs. Likely proprietary module will be dropped when they will drop support for Maxwell and Pascal.

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      • bug77
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 6513

        #13
        Originally posted by dragon321 View Post

        They kinda did, open source kernel module is Turing and newer only and since 560 it’s recommended for supported GPUs. Likely proprietary module will be dropped when they will drop support for Maxwell and Pascal.
        True, but they won't drop Maxwell and Pascal for years to come. Like DanL pointed out, they park older architectures in legacy branches. But those are still receiving bug fixes and made compatible with newer kernels, X or Wayland servers. It's why I don't mind much Nvidia drivers being close-sourced: the open community wouldn't do a better job anyway.

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        • dragon321
          Senior Member
          • May 2016
          • 873

          #14
          Originally posted by bug77 View Post

          True, but they won't drop Maxwell and Pascal for years to come. Like DanL pointed out, they park older architectures in legacy branches. But those are still receiving bug fixes and made compatible with newer kernels, X or Wayland servers. It's why I don't mind much Nvidia drivers being close-sourced: the open community wouldn't do a better job anyway.
          They might not drop support for Maxwell and Pascal but they might set proprietary module as "legacy" and focus on open source module. NVIDIA even said that this is their long term goal.

          Community is already doing better job. Using old proprietary NVIDIA drivers on modern Linux is not good experience. Even if you somehow manage to install them, which is not always the case, you are stuck with old driver that got last update years ago. You can also forget about using Wayland, even current X.Org Server is not guaranteed to work.. Meanwhile not only old Radeon or Intel GPUs are working fine on modern Linux and support current X.Org Server and Wayland but also sometimes they get updates from community.
          Last edited by dragon321; 06 December 2024, 12:53 PM.

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          • bug77
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 6513

            #15
            Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
            They might not drop support for Maxwell and Pascal but they might set proprietary module as "legacy" and focus on open source module. NVIDIA even said that this is their long term goal.
            This is how they always handle things.

            Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
            Except community does better job with supporting old hardware. Using old proprietary NVIDIA drivers on modern Linux is not good experience. Even if you somehow manage to install them, which is not always the case, you are stuck with old driver that got last update years ago. You can also forget about using Wayland, even current X.Org Server is not guaranteed to work.. Meanwhile not only old Radeon or Intel GPUs are working fine on modern Linux and support current X.Org Server and Wayland but also sometimes they get updates from community.
            Support for GeForce 400 (14yo Fermi) only ceased 2 years ago. That's long enough for me, Idk how much better the community does once AMD or Intel drops support.

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            • mkljczk
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2018
              • 2

              #16
              Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
              Community is already doing better job. Using old proprietary NVIDIA drivers on modern Linux is not good experience.
              12-years-old GeForce 600 Series still get updates (470.xx series) and the branch works fine for me (on a hybrid graphics laptop). Sounds reasonable to me

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              • edgan
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 27

                #17
                Originally posted by totoz View Post
                Hope they stabilized the suspend/resume feature, because the 560 and 565 beta drivers were terrible at that.
                It has the same issues.

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                • MrCooper
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 635

                  #18
                  Originally posted by bug77 View Post
                  Support for GeForce 400 (14yo Fermi) only ceased 2 years ago. That's long enough for me, Idk how much better the community does once AMD or Intel drops support.
                  The point is that AMD/Intel can't unilaterally drop support. It's up to each project.

                  The Linux kernel amdgpu & radeon drivers have KMS and HW acceleration support for all released Radeon GPUs back to the original R100 from around the millennium.

                  Current Mesa supports "only" Radeons from the last ~20 years (R300 family and newer), all of those work with latest Xorg and Wayland compositors (some Wayland compositors might require functionality lacking from the oldest supported Radeons). There's a Mesa "amber" branch which still allows running latest Xorg with HW acceleration on even older R100/R200 family Radeons.

                  It's a similar story on the Intel side.

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                  • DanL
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3122

                    #19
                    Originally posted by mkljczk View Post
                    12-years-old GeForce 600 Series still get updates (470.xx series)
                    Nvidia is done with 470 series now. Any future updates will be from your distro/packager.

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                    • mrgm148
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2024
                      • 1

                      #20
                      Originally posted by totoz View Post
                      Hope they stabilized the suspend/resume feature, because the 560 and 565 beta drivers were terrible at that.
                      It was already corrected

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