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  • oiaohm
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    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post
    yeah ok but who asked seriously nobody needed to hear that you're the only one deluding yourself here you think your words actually mean anything ok smarty pants see the thing is when you look at a mirror it might crack from your sheer ignorance the nvidia drivers just work unlike all the dependency hell nonsense others love to praise you're the joke here thinking your insults hold any weight in a real discussion
    Boy this does not help your argument. It took Nvidia 2 decades to finally admit user space management of resources is a bad idea.

    Remember Nvidia provides the developer who worked on KDE Wayland support for their cards. Reality Nvidia not anti Wayland. Nvidia was anti having to release their driver code. Of course that changed as Nvidia after decades finally admits this is the only way to make a stable solution. "Just works" Sorry Nvidia own developers admit their drivers are broken on Linux and that open sourcing the drivers and supporting DRI/GBM/DMABUF will be the way forwards. Of course those stuck on what Nvidia classes as legacy cards will not get this fix.

    Switching between 2 running X11 servers or switching between text based terminal and X11 server has been a long time way to cause a kernel panic when using Nvidia drivers because of broken resource management.

    Wayland development does go the route that near enough is not good enough.

    Yes there was a reason why I said Wayland development should have proceed forwards ignoring Nvidia 10 years ago and that was because Nvidia design was broken causing stability problems. The patches to Nvidia drivers for stability problems on Linux for 2 decades was basically wack a mole all each stability patch was doing was moving where the defect was currently hidden not in fact fixing it this was the side effect of user space resource management. Yes true wack a mole just making mole pop up somewhere else instead of eliminating the mole.

    This is why the just works argument is really works for me or I am sticking my head in the sand and not bothering to check if the design is solid.
    Last edited by oiaohm; 03 June 2024, 02:45 PM.

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  • mrg666
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    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post

    yeah ok but who asked seriously nobody needed to hear that you're the only one deluding yourself here you think your words actually mean anything ok smarty pants see the thing is when you look at a mirror it might crack from your sheer ignorance the nvidia drivers just work unlike all the dependency hell nonsense others love to praise you're the joke here thinking your insults hold any weight in a real discussion
    Somebody got confused or too excited. Scoring own goals Hey, I am here!

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  • bhptitotoss
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    I know you're too poor to afford a mirror, but try save up for one sometime. I guarantee your "idiot" meter will change.
    yeah ok but who asked seriously nobody needed to hear that you're the only one deluding yourself here you think your words actually mean anything ok smarty pants see the thing is when you look at a mirror it might crack from your sheer ignorance the nvidia drivers just work unlike all the dependency hell nonsense others love to praise you're the joke here thinking your insults hold any weight in a real discussion

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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post
    I can only see one idiot. And that is you.
    I know you're too poor to afford a mirror, but try save up for one sometime. I guarantee your "idiot" meter will change.

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  • oiaohm
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    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post
    sure buddy keep living in ur fantasy land FACT is Wayland is a mess and real users know it nobody cares about ur useless driveling about it being the future when its clearly a step backwards u can keep sticking to ur broken dreams while us real techies use stuff THAT WORKS reality check incoming ur tech knowledge is laughable compared to anyone who actually knows what they're doing guess common sense aint so common after all lol
    Common sense does not exist. Real techies does not exist as a valid argument either. Also define of what Works is like common sense its not the same for all people.

    Basically you just wrote a stack of stuff that means nothing. The reality is using common sense, Real techies and so on says you knowledge is joke and that you are mostly an incompetent troll.
    Last edited by oiaohm; 03 June 2024, 08:31 AM.

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  • bhptitotoss
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

    Umm, sorry I will not read this pile of words. It stinks.
    sure buddy keep living in ur fantasy land FACT is Wayland is a mess and real users know it nobody cares about ur useless driveling about it being the future when its clearly a step backwards u can keep sticking to ur broken dreams while us real techies use stuff THAT WORKS reality check incoming ur tech knowledge is laughable compared to anyone who actually knows what they're doing guess common sense aint so common after all lol

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  • mrg666
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    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post

    lol ok whatever makes you sleep better at night clearly you don't get it it's not about rage it's about FACTS do some research before you start typing BS Wayland is a joke and anyone with half a brain can see it but I guess u prefer living in ur little bubble just keep crying about open source while the real techies use stuff THAT WORKS cant help u if ur allergic to common sense
    Umm, sorry I will not read this pile of words. It stinks.

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  • oiaohm
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    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post
    lol ok whatever makes you sleep better at night clearly you don't get it it's not about rage it's about FACTS do some research before you start typing BS Wayland is a joke and anyone with half a brain can see it but I guess u prefer living in ur little bubble just keep crying about open source while the real techies use stuff THAT WORKS cant help u if ur allergic to common sense


    The reality here is common sense is not common. You are falling into the same trap as Weasel. LOL allergic to common sense is argument of a idiot because there is really no such thing as common sense.

    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post
    no u the hell are u even talking about it's CLEAR that Windows does it better u just have to deal with error codes instead of removing an API
    Problem here MS Windows does not have error codes on the placement APIs the applications use. Instead MS Windows allows applications to refuse to interact with users and automation. So you are now suggesting something MS Windows does not do since MS Windows does not do error codes on those API it does not do it better.

    Hello everyone! This is a new attempt to resolve the issues clients designed for stacking window managers are facing when they want to set their own...


    Will have to wait a bit because at this time the gitlab is doing update. But merge request 264 is about dealing with the problem.

    Removing API because you cannot make it work at the time is the correct thing todo. This open up space so someone can come up with a correct design without having a defective design in the mix.

    bhptitotoss is person who going to be a idiot who uses common sense and it's Clear as a defense. Error coding placement API were done with XACE with X11 so we don't have to guess what the disaster this is you can do a set of configurations and X11 and see it first hand.

    bhptitotoss the core thing here is lot items Wayland protocol has not implemented yet when you look closer are totally broken in existing solutions. Ok most people don't notice this stuff is broken because lots of people are not doing automation or requiring the desktop to be way more secure. This means lot of areas you have to go back to the complete drawing board. What makes this really bad is some of these mistakes were in the Xerox Parc Alto from 1973 that all existing GUI solutions other than Wayland have copied. Yes this is like coping from the person who has the lowest grades in a class then wondering why you have failing grade. Yes failing grade in automation and desktop security is because our GUI designs commonly used have been copied from student with failing grades by today standard.
    Last edited by oiaohm; 03 June 2024, 07:58 AM.

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  • bhptitotoss
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

    LOL, another lower life form, look at the grammar and the rage. Go support your whining weasel. Solidarity of idiots on full display.
    lol ok whatever makes you sleep better at night clearly you don't get it it's not about rage it's about FACTS do some research before you start typing BS Wayland is a joke and anyone with half a brain can see it but I guess u prefer living in ur little bubble just keep crying about open source while the real techies use stuff THAT WORKS cant help u if ur allergic to common sense

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  • mrg666
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    Originally posted by bhptitotoss View Post

    no u the hell are u even talking about it's CLEAR that Windows does it better u just have to deal with error codes instead of removing an API altogether moron it's like you dont even understand the basics of software dev but i got to give it to u wayland clowns are truly something else proof of why proprietary solutions always win DEAL WITH IT and seriously why dont u go cry in ur broken wayland corner and leave the real tech enthusiasts alone
    LOL, another lower life form, look at the grammar and the rage. Go support your whining weasel. Solidarity of idiots on full display.

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