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  • #11
    Where I live (in EU). If you factor the cost of an official windows license from oem 88€ (at cheapest price, perpetual being more around 140€) to pro version non oem at 360€. You have a margin of 88€ to 360€ headroom for your hardware (if you install it yourself, shop charges the windows install). Being the ram/motherboard, better cpu or gpu. You can get from 10% to 40% perf uplift depending on the license you choose. So worth considering. For the same price you will get a better pc on linux than using windows. And it will be better on everything else than gaming as well.
    Last edited by Jahimself; 19 April 2023, 03:09 PM.

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    • #12
      Ubuntu shouldn't be used in these benchmarks. It's slower than Windows.

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      • #13
        I'm curious to see a benchmark Arch vs Windoze.

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        • #14
          those outlier frametimes on Hitman 3 benchmarks on Ubuntu sure look like tasty targets for Mike Blumenkrantz to fix and funny-brag about in https://supergoodcode.com later...

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          ...oh wait...

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          he can't, the Nvidia driver isn't opensource yet

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          • #15
            Originally posted by marlock View Post
            those outlier frametimes on Hitman 3 benchmarks on Ubuntu sure look like tasty targets for Mike Blumenkrantz to fix and funny-brag about in https://supergoodcode.com later...

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            ...oh wait...

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            he can't, the Nvidia driver isn't opensource yet
            The part that Linux mainline wanted open source is open source:



            As for the userland bits needed for that to be useful, the community gets to write that itself.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Goddard View Post
              Forgive my ignorance, but I am curious would SteamOS beat Ubuntu?
              Since the performance will depend 99.9% on the vulkan driver and proton, which would be the same for SteamOS and Ubuntu, no, probably not.

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              • #17
                I'm not surprised the APIs that don't go through a compatibility layer are about the same for both platforms given that Nvidia moved nearly everything kernel side to the onboard firmware.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                  Ubuntu shouldn't be used in these benchmarks. It's slower than Windows.
                  The benchmark is already showing it faster or on par with Windows for things that have native Linux ports. The Windows games running over Proton will be slower whether you use Ubuntu or any other distro, they are games that have never been optimized for Linux. Also, Ubuntu is NOT slower than Windows, where did you get that info from? Finally, regardless of your opinion about Ubuntu, it remains the most widely used distro so Michael's choice makes sense.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by marlock View Post
                    those outlier frametimes on Hitman 3 benchmarks on Ubuntu sure look like tasty targets for Mike Blumenkrantz to fix and funny-brag about in https://supergoodcode.com later...

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                    ...oh wait...

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                    he can't, the Nvidia driver isn't opensource yet
                    No need to touch any driver code to reduce frame-time spikes, though:

                    Ubuntu's default "generic" kernel only has voluntary preemption activated, whereas the so-called "lowlatency" option which Canonical officially supports has full kernel preemption by default.

                    I can highly recommend switching over to it on any PC involving a GUI, because it ensures that even my low-powered Intel i3-7100U NUC feels really snappy, even when running Snaps! ()

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by sarmad View Post

                      The benchmark is already showing it faster or on par with Windows for things that have native Linux ports. The Windows games running over Proton will be slower whether you use Ubuntu or any other distro, they are games that have never been optimized for Linux. Also, Ubuntu is NOT slower than Windows, where did you get that info from? Finally, regardless of your opinion about Ubuntu, it remains the most widely used distro so Michael's choice makes sense.
                      I noticed a slight performance difference between Ubuntu and other distros, not only in gaming but in 3D production as well.
                      I don't remember the exact FPS difference in games, but it was something like 5 to 15% slower.

                      So even if Ubuntu is already showing to be equal or better than Windows, using a distro more optimized for gaming would be a nice way of comparing "the gaming OS" to the best of what Linux has to offer.

                      On another note, 3D production performance for my 3060 is this: (Blender classroom scene, GPU)
                      - Windows: 30.5 - 31.5 seconds
                      - Ubuntu: 30.5 - 31.5 seconds
                      - LMDE/Fedora: 28.2 seconds

                      It may not look like much, but 11-12% faster renders make a noteworthy difference in render times when you have hundreds or thousands of frames to render.

                      NOTE: The Ubuntu benchmarks were done in the default DE, but also on Kubuntu and UbuntuMATE (all 22.04 versions);
                      NOTE: The LMDE5 benchmark was done in Cinnamon with the very old 470 NVIDIA driver;
                      NOTE: The Fedora benchmark was done with Fedora 37 with the 530.41.03 driver.

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