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  • RecursiveRose
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    Originally posted by sfjuocekr View Post
    I know why text looks blurry .... [yada yada]
    I work on a 65" screen....
    Found the issue for you, that's like <70 DPI @ 4K, which is pretty pants by modern standards.

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  • Goddard
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    Originally posted by sfjuocekr View Post
    I know why text looks blurry, it is called fractional scaling.

    This doesn't just happen at random, Plasma just looks like a big blur to me. Press the meta key to open the panel and behold the blurry text.

    I work on a 65" screen, if there is one thing that bothers me it is blurry text... even Windows has this issue!
    What you described is probably an issue from the panel you have and not Plasma.

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  • Goddard
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    Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post

    Curious to know: which problems?

    From my years-long experience of using nVidia GPUs in my HTPCs, I've never encountered any problems whatsoever.
    On the contrary, 'nvidia-settings' allows me to easily set the color range to 'limited' [studio levels], so that blacks are not crushed & whites not overblown.

    And just to put this into perspective:
    AMDGPU still doesn't have this very basic support after all these years:



    bridgman
    Anyone left over at AMD that still cares about the above issue?
    I don't know what setup you are using, but all my 3000 series graphics cards when plugging into any HDMI device do not wake up from power off. If you turn the TV off, or it shuts it self off from lack of signal or something the picture doesn't come back. You have to completely reset your computer. Pretty annoying.

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  • Myownfriend
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    Originally posted by sfjuocekr View Post
    I know why text looks blurry, it is called fractional scaling.
    I've only really used KDE in VMs and I don't think I could get scaling working at all for some reason. I use Gnome 41 and it looks good to me but I'm pretty positive all Wayland compositors do scaling the same way, the Apple way, which is so render at 2x scale and resize down. I'm guess what you consider blurry and what I consider blurry just differ.

    Here's what text looks like on scaled monitor for me for Wayland native applications(left) and XWayland (right): https://i.imgur.com/ma107JD.png

    Of course since that's an image of text and not the text itself, both will be be bilinearly upscaled and thus blurry if you view them on a scaled monitor. You have to view them on a native DPI monitor where they'll be larger in size then I see them but sharper. Is that the kind of font rendering you see on your end?

    I tried looking up examples of KDE's fractional scaling in Wayland but all I found were super zoomed-in examples.

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  • sfjuocekr
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    I know why text looks blurry, it is called fractional scaling.

    This doesn't just happen at random, Plasma just looks like a big blur to me. Press the meta key to open the panel and behold the blurry text.

    I work on a 65" screen, if there is one thing that bothers me it is blurry text... even Windows has this issue!

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  • Myownfriend
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    Originally posted by sfjuocekr View Post
    The one big thing holding me back from switching to Wayland is DPI scaling, text just becomes blurry if you scale 200% on a 4K monitor.

    I'd rather have X11's DPI set to 192 with scaling set to 200%, which makes text sharp. It does cause some issues here and there with scaling in some fruity applications.

    ​​​
    I use DPI scaling on a 4K monitor and it really doesn't look blurry to me, but I've heard multiple people say the same thing you're saying and I was really confused. It took me awhile before I realized this but, is it possible that text looks blurry to you in Wayland because you're running application's using XWayland? Native Wayland applications looks great to me but XWayland applications just get scaled up using linear, bilinear, or nearest neighbor scaling depending on the compositor. There are currently some MRs ont X Server git that are working on proper DPI scaling in XWayland but it's unclear when they'll be merged.
    Last edited by Myownfriend; 03 November 2021, 11:53 PM.

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  • Goddard
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    Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post

    Curious to know: which problems?

    From my years-long experience of using nVidia GPUs in my HTPCs, I've never encountered any problems whatsoever.
    On the contrary, 'nvidia-settings' allows me to easily set the color range to 'limited' [studio levels], so that blacks are not crushed & whites not overblown.

    And just to put this into perspective:
    AMDGPU still doesn't have this very basic support after all these years:

    https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/476
    You probably aren't using HDMI, at least HDMI 2.1 in my case. If you have the computer shut the signal off when attempting to turn the tv back on to restore the signal it doesn't ever come back. You have to reboot your entire computer.

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  • sfjuocekr
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    The one big thing holding me back from switching to Wayland is DPI scaling, text just becomes blurry if you scale 200% on a 4K monitor.

    I'd rather have X11's DPI set to 192 with scaling set to 200%, which makes text sharp. It does cause some issues here and there with scaling in some fruity applications.

    ​​​

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  • Myownfriend
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    Originally posted by vb_linux View Post

    So, still far away.
    Depends on the distro. For Ubuntu it might be a bit of wait, at least until relevant patches are backported, but Fedora already has them.

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  • vb_linux
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    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post

    There are patches for XWayland, Mutter/Kwin, egl-wayland, and a few other things.
    So, still far away.

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