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  • Some Ugly Code Can Get NVIDIA's Linux Driver Working With Accelerated XWayland

    Phoronix: Some Ugly Code Can Get NVIDIA's Linux Driver Working With Accelerated XWayland

    Red Hat's Adam Jackson has been working on "GLX Delay" as a meand of offering accelerated GLX with OpenGL for XWayland when using the NVIDIA proprietary driver. The proposed code is going through Mesa even though it's for the proprietary NVIDIA driver benefit and also requires a change to the OpenGL Vendor Neutral Dispatch Library (libglvnd)...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...el-NV-XWayland

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    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Some Ugly Code Can Get NVIDIA's Linux Driver Working With Accelerated XWayland

    Red Hat's Adam Jackson has been working on "GLX Delay" as a meand of offering accelerated GLX with OpenGL for XWayland when using the NVIDIA proprietary driver. The proposed code is going through Mesa even though it's for the proprietary NVIDIA driver benefit and also requires a change to the OpenGL Vendor Neutral Dispatch Library (libglvnd)...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...el-NV-XWayland

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    • #3
      But I think, on balance, that this reduces the binary driver footprint, and I think that's a good direction to go."
      What does that mean exactly? How does it reduce the footprint? If anything, it makes an argument that blob now can work in more cases.

      I think helping the blob in any way is not a good thing. It only encourages Nvidia to act with impunity and drag their trash blob approach along.

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      • #4
        shmerl There’s no viable alternative. Patent trolls always want to target Nvidia. Plus a lot of their stuff is licensed and can’t be disclosed. So it’s very unlikely to change.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
          shmerl There’s no viable alternative. Patent trolls always want to target Nvidia. Plus a lot of their stuff is licensed and can’t be disclosed. So it’s very unlikely to change.
          Why not? Nouveau is already open, no one is targeting it. Nothing stops Nvidia from supporting it, including open userspace parts from Mesa that are using it.

          All these patent troll excuses are nonsense. Nvidia simply never cared about making things open, especially when they want to have higher control over who and how can or can't use their driver, like charging industrial users more for some extra features.
          Last edited by shmerl; 08-23-2020, 09:41 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
            shmerl There’s no viable alternative. Patent trolls always want to target Nvidia. Plus a lot of their stuff is licensed and can’t be disclosed. So it’s very unlikely to change.
            you do understand that patent trolls don't need the source code to the driver. That is just an excuse, and it's never passed any real world investigations.

            Also there is likely very little licenesed code in the NVIDIA driver itself, that isn't rewritable in under a month, I'd expect there is likely 0 non-NVIDIA code in there. Drivers just don't have major requirements on other people's code.

            It won't change, because NVIDIA don't want it to change, there is 0 things stopping a motivated NVIDIA from changing.
            Dave.

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            • #7
              airlied Speculations.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by shmerl View Post

                What does that mean exactly? How does it reduce the footprint? If anything, it makes an argument that blob now can work in more cases.

                I think helping the blob in any way is not a good thing. It only encourages Nvidia to act with impunity and drag their trash blob approach along.
                I think there is an opportunity here. make it work just enough... aim for 90% perf :P

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                • #9
                  Hi! I don't know much about Wayland, yet.
                  Does this
                  Among the features not implemented are support for resizing XWayland windows
                  mean, that desktop windows in general are not resizable?
                  Thank you!

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                  • #10
                    Fuc* NVIDIA. That all I hear in most of the comments and I can't stop myself from liking them. :-D

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