NVIDIA's 2018 Linux Highlights Included Some Open-Source Milestones, But Not Many

[Weasel]

No, I'm saying enthusiasts of an open source OS should be so honest not to recommend binary only drivers. This btw. is was open source was about, freeing and opening this basic software stack; you know these things that crashed at lot in Windows back in the day. If you want undebugable, untreatable, unfixable binary-only stuff you simply do not need an open source OS. Things like this are also why we did not had more innovation in the open graphic window system world in the last decade or two.

Or maybe I want to use an open source system & kernel but have no problems with closed-source userland apps.

Some people can be really slow on this forum.

[rene]

are you saying on an OS that's supposed to be about "freedom" I shouldn't have the "freedom" to install closed-source software?

No, I'm saying enthusiasts of an open source OS should be so honest not to recommend binary only drivers. This btw. is was open source was about, freeing and opening this basic software stack; you know these things that crashed at lot in Windows back in the day. If you want undebugable, untreatable, unfixable binary-only stuff you simply do not need an open source OS. Things like this are also why we did not had more innovation in the open graphic window system world in the last decade or two.

[Britoid]

if you like binary only stuff you could also simply use Windows or macOS or so, …

are you saying on an OS that's supposed to be about "freedom" I shouldn't have the "freedom" to install closed-source software?

[Weasel]

if you like binary only stuff you could also simply use Windows or macOS or so, …

Or you could simply use Linux with closed source software.

[Weasel]

And it will never work well, until it's upstreamed.

I have had zero problems with Nvidia drivers (except for rare bugs but I've had way more bugs with free open source drivers for Intel iGPU).

But yeah what to expect from Wayland fanboy, lol. Of course it "doesn't work well" for him then.

[brad0]

99% of people couldn't care less that nVidia's driver isn't open source, they just want something that works and works well. Linux desktop market share is so meaningless that nVidia loosing market share there won't bother them.

99% of people are idiots. Especially NVidia users. What's new.

[shmerl]

I use nVidia cards on Linux, I have no plans to change what GPUs I buy.

You might like using broken drivers, but most don't, as you said yourself people prefer what works. See the trend for example here. Nvidia usage is gradually declining and will continue doing so.

[rene]

I use nVidia cards on Linux, I have no plans to change what GPUs I buy. I wouldn't be surprised if legal issues is one of the reasons nVidia doesn't open source their driver.

if you like binary only stuff you could also simply use Windows or macOS or so, …

[rene]

99% of people couldn't care less that nVidia's driver isn't open source, they just want something that works and works well. Linux desktop market share is so meaningless that nVidia loosing market share there won't bother them.

99% of the people could not care less that Windows nor macOS aren't open source.

[Britoid]

And it will never work well, until it's upstreamed. Thus their Linux market share will plummet, that's inevitable. Especially with Intel releasing gaming cards with open drivers. Why should we care about what they think about Windows, it's irrelevant to Linux.

I use nVidia cards on Linux, I have no plans to change what GPUs I buy. I wouldn't be surprised if legal issues is one of the reasons nVidia doesn't open source their driver.