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    Phoronix: Mir 0.28.1 Arrives With Fixes, Fedora Support

    Mir 0.28.1 is now available as a minor update over Mir 0.28 that squeezed out the door ahead of Ubuntu 17.10...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag....28.1-Released

  • #2
    I seriously don't see the point of making Mir compatible with Fedora since nobody will use it until it becomes a proper Wayland compositor that plays nice with existing drivers without requiring patches so that smaller DEs and WMs such as Mate can adopt it instead of creating their own display server and Wayland compositors.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
      I seriously don't see the point of making Mir compatible with Fedora since nobody will use it until it becomes a proper Wayland compositor that plays nice with existing drivers without requiring patches so that smaller DEs and WMs such as Mate can adopt it instead of creating their own display server and Wayland compositors.
      At the end of the day, this is just one less barrier for others to adopt their code. Seems like a no brainer to me.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
        I seriously don't see the point of making Mir compatible with Fedora since nobody will use it until it becomes a proper Wayland compositor that plays nice with existing drivers without requiring patches so that smaller DEs and WMs such as Mate can adopt it instead of creating their own display server and Wayland compositors.
        since there fedora mate spin, and others derivates maybe is usefull for some ppl

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        • #5
          So we'll have four big Wayland implementations (disregarding niche ones like Enlightenment and Weston): KWin, Mutter™, Mir and Sway, with no shared work whatsoever between them. A great time for the Linux Desktop indeed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by awesz View Post
            So we'll have four big Wayland implementations (disregarding niche ones like Enlightenment and Weston): KWin, Mutter™, Mir and Sway, with no shared work whatsoever between them. A great time for the Linux Desktop indeed.
            Wayland is designed with fragmentation in mind. Also, the shared work is directly on the wayland project itself

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            • #7
              Originally posted by awesz View Post
              So we'll have four big Wayland implementations (disregarding niche ones like Enlightenment and Weston): KWin, Mutter™, Mir and Sway, with no shared work whatsoever between them. A great time for the Linux Desktop indeed.
              There is lots of shared work, both in the protocol and in the libraries (like libinput) that make it useable.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by awesz View Post
                So we'll have four big Wayland implementations (disregarding niche ones like Enlightenment and Weston): KWin, Mutter™, Mir and Sway, with no shared work whatsoever between them. A great time for the Linux Desktop indeed.
                Originally posted by M46m4 View Post

                Wayland is designed with fragmentation in mind. Also, the shared work is directly on the wayland project itself
                As long as they don't fracture the graphics stack any further, I'm fine with it. Remember that much of Mir's hate came from it needing patched X and Mesa drivers. If making Mir its own Wayland compositor allows it to use upstream Mesa without any need for patches, it should not be an issue any more.

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                • #9
                  Perhaps some people will make simplified things with it. Kiosk web browser, music player that's only a music player etc.
                  The thing still lets you run 3D things, watch video, scroll smoothly and fast as if you're running android, iphone or Vista Aero.

                  Instead of launching a whole Xorg session with the desktop and everything, you would launch one of the single purpose Mir or Mir Wayland session. On a well behaving computer this session could be launched in addition to the full desktop session you're running, on an unused display or one you're adding. Else, a micro PC or similar boots from the network, gets the software loaded into ramdisk, launches the single purpose session. You get an instant media player, terminal or a node for your control room.

                  Canonical did announce some time in the summer that Mir would be purposed for embedded (and thus industrial among things). This is how interpret it. No matter what it does it would be better if it works on fedora on ARM as well as on ubuntu on x86, rapsbian on raspberry, X on Y.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by grok View Post
                    Perhaps some people will make simplified things with it. Kiosk web browser, music player that's only a music player etc.
                    The thing still lets you run 3D things, watch video, scroll smoothly and fast as if you're running android, iphone or Vista Aero.

                    Instead of launching a whole Xorg session with the desktop and everything, you would launch one of the single purpose Mir or Mir Wayland session. On a well behaving computer this session could be launched in addition to the full desktop session you're running, on an unused display or one you're adding. Else, a micro PC or similar boots from the network, gets the software loaded into ramdisk, launches the single purpose session. You get an instant media player, terminal or a node for your control room.

                    Canonical did announce some time in the summer that Mir would be purposed for embedded (and thus industrial among things). This is how interpret it. No matter what it does it would be better if it works on fedora on ARM as well as on ubuntu on x86, rapsbian on raspberry, X on Y.
                    Mir first needs to move past its current status of being Canonical's failed project to a half-competent Wayland compositor and display server that can work with upstream Mesa.

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