Intel Announces 8th Gen Core CPUs: Claims 40% Boost Over Gen 7, More Cores

[bug77]

Seems like they didn't do much more than kick all of the hardware down a notch in the model range so that the (x)800 becomes the (x+1)700, (x)700 becomes the (x+1)600, (x)600 becomes the (x+1)500 and so on.

This is obviously a decent upgrade, but the fact that they did this and thus ended up releasing two refreshes the same year definitely suggests that AMD caught them with their pants down or at the very least in the middle of exploiting their dominant market position. If I hadn't bought a Ryzen R7 1700 when they released and was still in the market for a new CPU the 6 core 8700k would definitely be an interesting prospect, but I'm not sure I'd want to wait until very late Autumn or early Winter to buy one. Then there's also the fact that two motherboard vendors have, when asked, revealed that current LGA 1151 boards won't be supported even thou the new chips will still use the same socket.

I've said it the day Ryzen was benchmarked: expect hastily assembled responses from Intel throughout 2017. It will take them at least a year to come up with a proper response.

[eydee]

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WCCFTech

You told them, dude. Such dominance. Wow.

[Staffan]

So the 8th generation really just a slightly less crippled version of the 7th generation?

[ypnos]

Also, Intel ME can be permanently disabled but bitching about Intel is so cool nowadays, right?

Oh, you mean this unsupported piece of software that can brick your system[1-3], and if it works, also doesn't fully remove ME?

As if Zen has finally reached IPC parity with Intel. Oh, wait, it hasn't.

How is Zen related to Intel ME?

Also, most consumer PCs have it disabled by default (IOW it is present but not active).

IOW: It can not be disabled, even if 'disabled' by the BIOS the ME chip is still active and fully capable.

Let's mention it anyways, 'cause hating Intel is so trendy.

You are a fanboy per excellence. The security implications of Intel ME are a valid issue and it makes sense to point them out, as there is no clean and secure way to remove Intel ME. Intel should listen to its customers and provide components that they can trust.

[1] https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/...ment-306435008
[2] https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/...ment-322223581
[3] https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/...ment-290447162

[sdack]

They're going to call the next generation "Coffee Lake"? Sounds as if somebody at Intel has had a coffee spill and took it as an inspiration.

[polarathene]

They're going to call the next generation "Coffee Lake"? Sounds as if somebody at Intel has had a coffee spill and took it as an inspiration.

IIRC it was originally Cannon Lake, no idea when it got switched to Coffee Lake, both sound cool to me.

[caligula]

But if the 40% claim is accurate, then they may hold the upper ground on mobile.

Those numbers are just pure marketing propaganda. Of course you get large speedups when you compare models with different core counts. For some users, the core count doesn't increase. Imagine the people who bought 4-core machines and will again end up buying 4-core machines. They don't get +40%. It's only for the people who go from 2 to 4.

[caligula]

WCCFTech welcomes you.

And no, Intel ME doesn't go anywhere. Enterprise wants it, enterprise needs it.

Also, Intel ME can be permanently disabled but bitching about Intel is so cool nowadays, right? As if Zen has finally reached IPC parity with Intel. Oh, wait, it hasn't.

Also, most consumer PCs have it disabled by default (IOW it is present but not active). But who cares? Let's mention it anyways, 'cause hating Intel is so trendy.

Slightly butthurt intel fanboy?

[Jabberwocky]

... The security implications of Intel ME are a valid issue and it makes sense to point them out, as there is no clean and secure way to remove Intel ME. Intel should listen to its customers and provide components that they can trust.

[1] https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/...ment-306435008
[2] https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/...ment-322223581
[3] https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/...ment-290447162

The things one learns in the comments of a new core announcement. Thanks for pointing this out ypnos. It's sad to see that my old flagship motherboard is one of those that do not work properly when Intel ME is disabled.

Has anyone seen threads like this for Intel (honest question)? https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...eon_and_other/

[arakan94]

Very sneaky to market them as 8th generation.
Then I don't know which ones are really from the 8th generation with Coffee Lake, so I guess I will just avoid all 8th generation laptops and skip that one.
Now it will be difficult to know if you got a Coffee Lake which is 8th generation or if you get a Kaby Lake Refresh deceptively branded as a 8th generation while it's arguably really not.
So best to skip the entire 8th generation laptops and wait for the 9th generation Cannon Lake unless you can wait for the 10th generation Ice Lake.

Best to stop buying Intel altogether