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Intel Celeron G3930 On Linux: A Dual-Core Kabylake CPU For $40
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Originally posted by Max Payne View PostRather than comparing these low end processors with other recent higher end processors your should compare them with core 2 duo/quad, initial core i cpus and other older parts, since these cheap cpus make more sense for folks running older systems that have been delaying their upgrades for a long time.
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Originally posted by Delgarde View Post
Sadly, yes. I saw a review of one of the current "high end" AMD chips recently, and while the reviewer tried to put a spin on it in terms of unbeatable price, the fact remains that the benchmarks showed it struggling to compete with the Intel i3 range, much less the i5 or i7. *Maybe* Zen will turn that around... but I'm not putting money on it.
As for "not putting money on it", it's your own loss. I bought thousands of shares of AMD stock at $1.88 at this time last year. It's over $12 today. I did put money on it, and I've made some serious profits!! Capitalism FTW; the ultimate democratization of wealth.
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Originally posted by Ronshere View PostI have always wondered why Intel produces so many different processors, particularly these worthless underperformers.
Why not just focus on a line of processors that performs well? When the price difference between an underperformer
and one that is adequate is very little why would anyone want something that is impractical.
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It is great to see mainstream processors, like the G4600 being tested on Linux. I have 2 over-clocked G3258 Pentiums, a Sandy Bridge i3 and a regular Sandy Bridge Pentium all with Nvidia mid-range graphics cards in my house, for medium-level gaming. However, I don't have a clue about an upgrade path for my PCs, as new Intel quad cores are currently stupidly expensive. I am hoping that basic AMD Ryzen quad cores will be around $100 and hence affordable, if not I may be looking at the G4600. Does anybody know the performance impact of using a G4600 with my old1600Mhz DDR3 compared with new DDR4?
Regarding Celerons, I purchased an equivalent Sandy Bridge Celeron a few years ago for a media PC, but when a family member's PC failed, it got used as a regular PC. It has been plenty fast enough for normal PC use (i.e. non-gaming and non-video editing applications). So yes, Celerons have their usefulness with Linux.
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Originally posted by Delgarde View PostI saw a review of one of the current "high end" AMD chips recently
Though I too find it rather sad that these 30€ chips with two cores and limited feature set are like twice as fast as my overclocked six-core Phenom in pretty much everything escept the timed compilation benchmarks nowadays, but such is life, that thing is almost 7 years old.
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Originally posted by torsionbar28 View PostHuh? Guess you haven't seen the leaked Zen benchmarks showing it beating intel's $1000 top of the range i7 chips. Or AMD's official statement saying they've achieved 40%+ IPC improvement with Zen. Zen is a completely different design, SMT vs. CMT. Using the poor single-thread performance of the old CMT architecture to gauge Zen performance is silly.
And yes, Zen is supposed to be great, leaked benchmarks and all... but it's still in the future, not on shelves now.
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Originally posted by chuckula View PostNo, it was an intelligent rebuttal to a stupid comment with excellent performance and a $40 pricetag is somehow worthless.
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Originally posted by Ronshere View PostI have always wondered why Intel produces so many different processors, particularly these worthless underperformers.
Why not just focus on a line of processors that performs well? When the price difference between an underperformer
and one that is adequate is very little why would anyone want something that is impractical.
After a certain point, performance isn't what people are paying for, it's efficiency.
I do agree that Intel has way too large of a product lineup, but I don't find this CPU useless.
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To me this Celeron is just for someone who really does not have money, wanna raw cheapest power on Desktop and wanna OCing it
These who wanna low power Desktops, HTPCs, passively cooled things... should look at these 10W Goldmont Pentium/Celerons.
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