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  • edmon
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    Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post

    Why? And how do other package formats fair better?
    just count discontinued RPM vs DEB based distributions.

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  • Guest
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    Originally posted by edmon View Post
    if something is RPM based it is .... broken by design.
    Why? And how do other package formats fair better?

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  • edmon
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    if something is RPM based it is .... broken by design.

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  • nils_
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
    I think Clear os is just a intel religion marketing trick. For example Amd X4 860k is as good as cheapest quad core intel i5 4460 in games at fullhd.
    http://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/comparis...i5-4460-3-2ghz
    So with amd cpu you can save your money for a better graphics card.
    This is clearly intended for server use where AMD is completely irrelevant.

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  • arjan_intel
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    Originally posted by Alliancemd View Post

    3. It's strange for a Linux distro to claim that it is aimed at speed but uses bash by default...
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh - "The boot speed improvements in Ubuntu 6.10 were often incorrectly attributed to Upstart", "These improvements were in fact largely due to the changed /bin/sh".

    Edit:
    I am also not a fan of it including in the "devtools" languages like Go and R but no Rust...
    I might be misinformed but, even though Rust is younger, it already has a bigger community than R.
    Just a side note...

    Edit2:
    Based on TIOBE Index, R is more popular, even than Go...
    on bash vs ash; the boot speed difference mattered when boot scripts were written in shell; with systemd there's really no shell stuff left in the boot. Oh and we did speed optimize our bash a bit...

    on rust.. our local rust fan just assured me we do provide rust in the "rust-basic" bundle! It's not a rich set of preprovided libs/etc yet (basic) but still...

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  • Alliancemd
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    1. No, Clear Linux is not intended to be your primary desktop distro. It's intended for uses case like cloud and containers.
    For example: Let's make it simple for everybody to build this Sphinx documentation. How to do it? Construct a light container, put in it Python and Sphinx and build the documentation.
    Everybody will have a stable and reproducible way of creating this documentation.

    2. It is directly competing with "Alpine Linux" which is an in-memory Linux also intended for cloud and containers. It's interesting how they compete performance wise(because of the performance claim).

    3. It's strange for a Linux distro to claim that it is aimed at speed but uses bash by default...
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh - "The boot speed improvements in Ubuntu 6.10 were often incorrectly attributed to Upstart", "These improvements were in fact largely due to the changed /bin/sh".

    Edit:
    I am also not a fan of it including in the "devtools" languages like Go and R but no Rust...
    I might be misinformed but, even though Rust is younger, it already has a bigger community than R.
    Just a side note...

    Edit2:
    Based on TIOBE Index, R is more popular, even than Go...
    Last edited by Alliancemd; 18 December 2015, 02:54 PM.

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  • rabcor
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    Originally posted by arjan_intel View Post

    We're close to having this working/available; we call it a "mixer" because it allows you to remix the OS with your own extra content, but also to tweak bundle content etc. It's aimed at the cloud space where a sysadmin is willing to go through the effort like this for multiple computers; it's not too useful for single computer use to be honest.
    That's cool, but yeah I half expected it'd be something like that, considering that the distro is after all aimed at cloud computing and servers. A bit of a shame it's not aimed at desktop use, or doesn't have a variant that's aimed at it. I'll be sure to keep an eye on this when the "mixer" is ready either way, just to see what it's got.

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  • arjan_intel
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    Originally posted by bug77 View Post
    Are you guys working with the Yocto project to customize Clear Linux or are the bundles a whole different animal?
    Bundles are a whole different animal.

    Think of Yocto like a grocery store; you can buy great ingredients and make your own great meal.
    Clear Linux/Bundles are more like a restaurant; you can quickly build a meal from selecting higher level components

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by arjan_intel View Post

    so we also integrate with Docker (https://clearlinux.org/blogs/clear-c...-docker-engine).
    A VM is generally seen more secure as a pure native container (sharing kernels comes with limits after all). But docker isnt' an OS, it's a great tool to solve the logistics of deploying apps on top of an OS. So yes Clear Linux OS comes with Docker as well, and Clear Containers can be used as a backend for Docker
    Ok, so Clear Linux brings more security to the table.
    Are you guys working with the Yocto project to customize Clear Linux or are the bundles a whole different animal?

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  • arjan_intel
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    Originally posted by bug77 View Post
    I'm not sure how this is better than Docker. Being stateless and everything. Ok, you can run it as a VM on Windows, but what else?
    so we also integrate with Docker (https://clearlinux.org/blogs/clear-c...-docker-engine).
    A VM is generally seen more secure as a pure native container (sharing kernels comes with limits after all). But docker isnt' an OS, it's a great tool to solve the logistics of deploying apps on top of an OS. So yes Clear Linux OS comes with Docker as well, and Clear Containers can be used as a backend for Docker

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