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Originally posted by dungeon View PostBlah, sorry but that is "China is bigger then Japan" analogy
Divide that by the size of the companies and what percentage per company you get then?
Originally posted by Kano View Post@SSX
Intel mobile SoC are pretty expensive, what you think is much is less than 4% marketshare.
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Originally posted by SXX View PostIt's doesn't really matter how big company are as we only care about amount of effort each company put into Linux graphics stack.
Intel 106,700
AMD 9,687
Nvidia 8,800
Lets be more... because, how do you think company size does not matter? Of course that China and India contribute the most to the world, we can mention that every day isn't it OK then "good morninng everybody without asians and their cheap workers our PCs should cost ?10.000 and much more." and every day like that
It's pretty clear that without huge effort from Intel current state of AMD open graphics stack wouldn't be possible.
You can only applaud to AMD like Khronos members on GDC did
Last edited by dungeon; 06 March 2015, 04:35 AM.
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Originally posted by haagch View PostIt's written to large parts by full time employees of amd and commited to mesa with accounts with their company mail addresses. If that's not official, what is?
Business world is all about support and certificates. Nobody will give you mesa driver support at this point. Therefore most linux game dev will give a fuck about your issues with mesa and therefore all the requiements state catalyst as driver (1, 2 exceptions sure) and therefore x-plane only runs with --force_run command line option aand therefore you will find catalyst at amd's homepage but you can't read about mesa.
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Originally posted by dungeon View PostWell size of the companies metter, if you dunno numbers let me help you... according to Wikipedia, number of employees in 2014.:
Originally posted by dungeon View PostThat is partly correct, i was one of the ATi mesa users 13 years ago too and radeon driver was there
Originally posted by dungeon View PostYou can only applaud to AMD like Khronos members on GDC did
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Originally posted by SXX View PostNot all these people at Intel work on GPUs so this comparison is useless. And even if it's matter if we take graphics divisions only then 100k Intel vs 10k Nvidia or AMD GPU division (no idea how many people work there) it's wouldn't be much different.
Personally I didn't used Linux 13 years ago (may be 10-11 years), but more 10 years ago any open source graphics drivers was a joke. And 6 years ago it's was in really bad state still, but with Intel contributions to Mesa it's finally become usable. Not to say other guys didn't do anything, but Intel put a lot of effort into Mesa and graphics stack improvements overall.
AMD's Khronos efforts have nothing to do with open source drivers and their influence on open source graphics stack.
We can go this way every day... Kiss 10 asians every day as thanksgiving day to cheap electronics
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Originally posted by dungeon View PostWe can go this way every day... Kiss 10 asians every day as thanksgiving day to cheap electronics
Anyway I don't really live in the place that exports electronics so myself is not counted in, am I ?
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You forget 10000 ppl at Globalfoundaries and and lots at TSMC as AMD was splitted and Nvidia never had own fabs. So you compare apples with oranges. Comparing AMD to Nvidia might be better. I don't know if it is funny or not as AMD and Nvidia both compete for being the first TSMC client to get shrinked chips... TSMC will use 16 nm soon, GF seems to be stuck at 28 nm, Intel uses 22 and 14 nm currently.
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Originally posted by Kano View PostYou forget 10000 ppl at Globalfoundaries and and lots at TSMC as AMD was splitted and Nvidia never had own fabs. So you compare apples with oranges. Comparing AMD to Nvidia might be better. I don't know if it is funny or not as AMD and Nvidia both compete for being the first TSMC client to get shrinked chips... TSMC will use 16 nm soon, GF seems to be stuck at 28 nm, Intel uses 22 and 14 nm currently.
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