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  • startzz
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    Well, its hard to buy a laptop or desktop pc without integrated graphics, because almost every laptop or pc has integrated graphics, thats what we are forced to buy, thats how the biggest companies rules this world, and there is nothing i can do about it.
    Yeah, good for them, that they care, but its not like drivers will increase performance so much, that intel graphics will beat most of nvidia or amd graphics cards
    Its very easy - just dont anything stupid, and use items for actions it were made for.

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  • Ren H?ek
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    Originally posted by startzz View Post
    Yes, but it still makes no sense, because no real gamers cares about intel drivers or any sh1t like that, especially on linux, if you wanna play games, then at least buy a pc... [..]
    Whats the point of watching gay porn, if you are straight ? doing these comparisons are the same freakin thing, just in technological way... You better test how hard have you to hit wall with your head to die
    * Intel has a big share in the graphics market. And especially on mobile PCs without another GPU people are stuck to it.
    These might not be "real gamers" after your definition, but they still care for the performance of their hardware.
    And as this site isn't exclusively or primarily for "real gamers" the comparisons are appropriate.

    * Beside testing Intel, there are also tests with NVIDIA and AMD graphics comparing Linux and Windows performance:
    Phoronix, Linux Hardware Reviews, Linux hardware benchmarks, Linux server benchmarks, Linux benchmarking, Desktop Linux, Linux performance, Open Source graphics, Linux How To, Ubuntu benchmarks, Ubuntu hardware, Phoronix Test Suite

    Phoronix, Linux Hardware Reviews, Linux hardware benchmarks, Linux server benchmarks, Linux benchmarking, Desktop Linux, Linux performance, Open Source graphics, Linux How To, Ubuntu benchmarks, Ubuntu hardware, Phoronix Test Suite


    * I guess "real gamers", after your definition, wouldn't care for tests on Linux after all, as the newest "AAA" titles are not playable.

    So it's hard to see what the point of your arguments and inappropriate and unfitting porn and head smashing analogies is.
    What kind of comparisons (GPU/OS/Driver/Game) would you suggest? What would be the Intention?
    Last edited by Ren H?ek; 07 April 2013, 07:14 AM.

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  • frign
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    What the hell?

    Originally posted by startzz View Post
    Yes, but it still makes no sense, because no real gamers cares about intel drivers or any sh1t like that, especially on linux, if you wanna play games, then at least buy a pc... for a price of mobile phone you can buy a very good pc with good graphics card, it will be many times better for gaming... Whats the point of watching gay porn, if you are straight ? doing these comparisons are the same freakin thing, just in technological way... You better test how hard have you to hit wall with your head to die
    You are loathsome.

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  • startzz
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    Originally posted by Ren H?ek View Post
    The goal was to compare the performance of the Intel driver on Linux und Windows.

    It's hard to compare Intel driver performance on NVIDIA or AMD hardware.
    Maybe it's not the author...
    ... but the reader?

    @ Michael: Thanks for the comparisons. And don't let the unjustified criticism discourage you.
    Yes, but it still makes no sense, because no real gamers cares about intel drivers or any sh1t like that, especially on linux, if you wanna play games, then at least buy a pc... for a price of mobile phone you can buy a very good pc with good graphics card, it will be many times better for gaming... Whats the point of watching gay porn, if you are straight ? doing these comparisons are the same freakin thing, just in technological way... You better test how hard have you to hit wall with your head to die
    Last edited by startzz; 07 April 2013, 06:35 AM.

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  • Stunts
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    Thank you!

    Originally posted by curaga View Post
    Re float and S3TC questions, have some direct links:
    OpenBenchmarking.org, Phoronix Test Suite, Linux benchmarking, automated benchmarking, benchmarking results, benchmarking repository, open source benchmarking, benchmarking test profiles

    OpenBenchmarking.org, Phoronix Test Suite, Linux benchmarking, automated benchmarking, benchmarking results, benchmarking repository, open source benchmarking, benchmarking test profiles


    Both have s2tc it seems, only ubuntu has float.
    Thank you curaga! That was just the answer I was looking for. Now I wonder if the same is true for radeon tests, since they require a variable to be exported in order to activate S3TC feature. =-)
    I'll be looking for it next time.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    There's a little box icon (i think?) in the bottom left corner of all the charts.
    Oh! OK, I see it. Although it's super tiny and I never would have thought it's clickable.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    Hum. I can see SVGs, I'm not using AdBlock, and yet I can't find the links. I'm probably just looking at the wrong place, though. Where exactly is that link placed at?
    There's a little box icon (i think?) in the bottom left corner of all the charts.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    What's your HTTP user agent string there?
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.31 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/26.0.1410.43 Safari/537.31

    Edit- and headers that work:
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0
    Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0)
    Last edited by smitty3268; 06 April 2013, 04:15 PM.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    If you are on a modern web-browser (anything supporting SVG, a.k.a most anything in past few years aside from IE), you get the SVG graphs that all have links to the OpenBenchmarking.org results... But if you're using AdBlock or similar, it seems to think that result graphs are ads, so it might be blocking you from seeing it.

    Yes, on OpenBenchmarking.org are all of the key system log files.
    Hum. I can see SVGs, I'm not using AdBlock, and yet I can't find the links. I'm probably just looking at the wrong place, though. Where exactly is that link placed at?

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  • jayrulez
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    Originally posted by kraftman View Post
    It is, because you can tune it easily. Trade offs are everywhere, but in Linux you have control over them.
    How do you easily tune Linux for transparent distributed computing or fault isolation?

    It is not easy, and it cannot be done without massive breaking changes.

    Maybe because he wants to have full performance and use Freedom operating system? Maybe because he doesn't want his data to be sent to m$?
    Can the man speak for himself?

    There's nothing better, so they're right.
    I see you are one of those fan girls... sorry, I meant fan boys.

    And that's meaningless, because qnx is crap compared to Linux. Qnx supports arm, power, x86, but so what? It's damn slow, featureless crap.
    Based on your previous comment, I think it would be a waste of effort to try to correct you.

    Nope. Most of the kernels aren't so flexible and when comes to proprietary ones you can nearly tune nothing.
    I know quite a few kernels that are quite flexible and allows such changes to be made without being invasive. Whether it's proprietary or open source doesn't matter. The developer of the kernel can make it do what he wants it to do. I don't suppose you yourself are making massive changes to the linux kernel to get it to do what you want to do.

    Who cares? It's open source and you can take what you want and do what you want from it. I see your logic fails.
    What was the point of that comment? We all know Linux kernel is open source and with enough effort, you could get it to do what you want.

    However, say you want a kernel that enables transparent distributed computing(even across architectures): It would be much easier to use another kernel that already enables this rather than try to tame Linux for this. If you managed to change Linux to do that, it wouldn't even be Linux anymore.
    Last edited by jayrulez; 06 April 2013, 11:48 AM.

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