Intel Makes More Driver Improvements For Valve's L4D2

[curaga]

You are ignoring the on-cpu memory on some Haswell variants. Possibly in future AMD cpus too, but nothing heard about them on that yet.

[uid313]

Or maybe you're the one that is clueless? Historically IGPs sucked because DDR1/DDR2 did not have enough bandwidth to satisfy both the CPU and the GPU. This is already better with DDR3, the GPU part AMD Trinity APU gets pretty close to the performance of a mid-range dedicated GPU, it's mostly the CPU part that limits your frame rate on any AMD APU. And with DDR4 memory IGPs will actually get a chance to challenge the highend dedicated GPUs.

But DDR4 is still some years in the future.
By then, there maybe is GDDR6.

What is high-end today is low-end tomorrow.

[Ansla]

No matter whatever Intel or AMD might ever say, integrated graphics will ALWAYS suck compared with a even average dedicated GC.

....and if you think otherwise, you are clueless about hardware PC design and serious gaming

Or maybe you're the one that is clueless? Historically IGPs sucked because DDR1/DDR2 did not have enough bandwidth to satisfy both the CPU and the GPU. This is already better with DDR3, the GPU part AMD Trinity APU gets pretty close to the performance of a mid-range dedicated GPU, it's mostly the CPU part that limits your frame rate on any AMD APU. And with DDR4 memory IGPs will actually get a chance to challenge the highend dedicated GPUs.

[curaga]

OpenArena 0.8.5

[FutureSuture]

Good on Intel then, but can someone name some games that run well on Intel graphics chips?

[kwahoo]

and for intel its good to make here progress especialy for valve because 90% of all people have intel-gpus in use, and yes such low-end grafics games are also played on such systems.

12% of Steam users http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

[GreatEmerald]

Whose focus?

He meant Valve, but then yes, it's Intel that did the improvements, after all.

[mattst88]

My apologies for this ignorant question, but what's the point? Intel isn't known for gaming, at least as far as I know. Nvidia and AMD are. Shouldn't the focus be on those two?

Whose focus? Kenneth works for Intel.

[Kano]

I would prefer changes to make Rage work with wine. It is very bad that you need binary drivers to run it - and the game is pure OpenGL - means basically same speed as a native Linux binary.

[blackiwid]

My apologies for this ignorant question, but what's the point? Intel isn't known for gaming, at least as far as I know. Nvidia and AMD are. Shouldn't the focus be on those two?

The Point is that intels main driver is the free one, and with the blob drivers from nvidia and amd any dedicated card that was sold in the last 5 years is fast enough for that source-engine games anyway, and if they optimise them a bit for that game we will not hear about that anyway...

and for intel its good to make here progress especialy for valve because 90% of all people have intel-gpus in use, and yes such low-end grafics games are also played on such systems. So at least for valve that makes very much sense. for Intel its a good example software to make their driver better in gerneral, if that game works better other software that uses 3d features will become faster, too.