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  • MonkeyPaw
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    Originally posted by nbecker View Post
    I've been trying to follow this because I'm looking for a new laptop (desktop replacement). Currently have 17" hp dv9000. I've used nvidia for years (blobs).

    What should I look for in a laptop with Intel graphics that has:

    good linux support
    performance sufficient for desktop effects, perhaps the occasional game (I'm not a gamer).

    I'm not a gamer, but want something future-proof for 4-5 years.
    I have an i3 with HD 3000 and I'm perfectly content with it. I don't game on my machine much though.

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  • artivision
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    First of all, I don't say things based on believes. Windows and most closed-source will extinct in 3-5 years, analysts say. 1)Small devices like tablets, phones, goggles, watches, will crash desktops and laptops, in less than 3 years estimation 70/30, and completely in 5 years. 2)Windows will have less than 30% on small devices, as analysts say and that will also decrease in 5 years. 3)The last stronghold/fortress of windows and closed-source "gaming" is also falling. I have laptops with all gpu-vendors and I play "blade_and_soul" full speed via WineHQ, and thats because all new graphics-machines are api-less. 4)My personal estimation is that many people will wake up in the next 5 years, when they understand that any one who uses windows is stupid, except if one is forced by his job.

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  • Aleve Sicofante
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    Originally posted by nbecker View Post
    I've been trying to follow this because I'm looking for a new laptop (desktop replacement). Currently have 17" hp dv9000. I've used nvidia for years (blobs).

    What should I look for in a laptop with Intel graphics that has:

    good linux support
    performance sufficient for desktop effects, perhaps the occasional game (I'm not a gamer).

    I'm not a gamer, but want something future-proof for 4-5 years.
    Just don't buy AMD graphics or make sure you can switch them off. I wouldn't buy Nvidia either, unless you really need very high graphics performance; not because they don't work but just because it's a waste of money (the binary blob is fine with pro 3D apps in my experience; I don't game). Desktop effects have been perfectly fluid with Intel graphics for years so it's a no brainer if you're going to do just mild gaming.

    Intel's HD4000 is as future proof as you can get. They will stay open and provide excellent performance for low-end games.

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  • disi
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    Originally posted by kwahoo View Post
    Numbers for Radeon 6670 (mid quality preset):
    open source R600g 1920x1080 ~15fps
    open source R600g 1280x720 ~30fps
    Catalyst 1920x1080 ~60fps
    Jupp, I had about the same experience: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonProgram
    Still not really playable with 15fps on full screen and the AA problem... that's why silver.
    Last edited by disi; 06 July 2012, 07:46 AM.

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  • Aleve Sicofante
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    The problem as I said before with your algo is that immediately you need to know how many colors you'll end up picking. but pts_Graph won't know that until later on and if doing real-time changes you may end up needing more colors after the fact. The current implementation is also using HSL.
    Just stop trusting "clever" algorithms, export the data and put them inside Calc.

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  • nbecker
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    Intel for new laptop?

    I've been trying to follow this because I'm looking for a new laptop (desktop replacement). Currently have 17" hp dv9000. I've used nvidia for years (blobs).

    What should I look for in a laptop with Intel graphics that has:

    good linux support
    performance sufficient for desktop effects, perhaps the occasional game (I'm not a gamer).

    I'm not a gamer, but want something future-proof for 4-5 years.

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  • kwahoo
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    Originally posted by disi View Post
    In the meantime it even works on the open radeon driver, but with very low fps. On mid quality with ~10-20fps and AA needs to be turned off.
    Numbers for Radeon 6670 (mid quality preset):
    open source R600g 1920x1080 ~15fps
    open source R600g 1280x720 ~30fps
    Catalyst 1920x1080 ~60fps

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  • disi
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    OilRush

    Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
    According to their forum the new Intel HD 4000 should be capable of playing OilRush on HD [1280x720] resolution. Altrought they say that the drivers are "problematic".
    BTW the thread on their website was started by me, because I found that game in one gameshop in the UK and wanted to support them. You can found the thread here.
    In the meantime it even works on the open radeon driver, but with very low fps. On mid quality with ~10-20fps and AA needs to be turned off.

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  • chithanh
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Windows have been here for over 25 years ago. It has a dominance on the market. It is here to stay, Windows is not going anywhere.
    Windows PCs will still continue to exist, just as TVs still exist in the age of the Internet, and horse carriages continued to exist after the automobile was invented. But they are stagnating, while smartphones, tablets and similar devices enjoy massive growth.
    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Microsoft is not like Google who launches a service and drops it a year later. Microsoft is strongly committed to their products, which is why they're trusted and relied on so much. Microsoft's support makes Ubuntu's LTS releases look like a joke. Windows XP was released 10 years ago, and it will still be supported for 2 more years.
    Do I need to remind you about Microsoft Kin? PlaysForSure? Zune? (Yeah, they tried twice.) The Windows Mobile Marketplace?
    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Microsoft is working a lot on the cloud with Azure.
    They are investing a lot of money, but whether Azure becomes profitable remains to be seen.
    Last edited by chithanh; 06 July 2012, 06:52 AM.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Presumably it was worse before, and they actually "improved" the color pick function, but it still sucks.
    Patches to Phoronix Test Suite are welcome.

    I actually tried write a improved variant, but it has not been merged. Maybe it is not so good, but maybe it is at least better than the current implementation.
    It uses HSL color rotation. But someone told me HSL have a problem that it does not map colors all that good.
    PHP Code:
    <?php

    $items_to_benchmark 
    16;
    $h 0;
    $s 100;
    $l 50;

    if (
    $items_to_benchmark 8) {
      
    $increase_hue_by 360 $items_to_benchmark;
    } else {
      
    $increase_hue_by 45;
    }

    for (
    $i 0$i $items_to_benchmark$i++) {
      if (
    $h == 360) {
        
    $s -= 33;
        
    $l += 10;
      }
      
    $color "hsl($h$s%, $l%)";
      echo 
    "<div style=\"background-color: $color\">&nbsp;</div>\n";
      
    $h += $increase_hue_by;
    }  

    ?>
    Try the code, write a patch and send it in.
    The problem as I said before with your algo is that immediately you need to know how many colors you'll end up picking. but pts_Graph won't know that until later on and if doing real-time changes you may end up needing more colors after the fact. The current implementation is also using HSL.

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