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  • autono
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    Corporate psychos

    Charlie Demerjian doubts Intel will ever release Medfield. Asus, Dell, Acer; they all got burned on poulsbo. They aren't going to make that mistake again. Intel won't be able to give away Medfield for free. Intel's problem is they can't tell the truth and admit that Medfield will never be sold.

    Suppose Intel does have a good graphics driver, ha ha ha, Medfield still has no advantage over Arm. The one advantage they had was bringing Windows to the dance. But Intel went for a fling with Meego and now MS is in bed with Arm. Intel will be paid back for their trasgressions.

    Michael will have a lot less anguish when he grasps the truth.

    http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/03/i...bullet-points/

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  • agajan
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    out of staging in which release?

    However, this Intel Medfield graphics support was added to the Intel GMA500 "Poulsbo" DRM driver, which was merged and moved out of staging in the brand-new Linux 3.2 kernel.
    I believe that this driver will be moved out of staging in the Linux 3.3 kernel.

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  • grege
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    Originally posted by lucazade View Post
    There are no words to express my feelings about Gma500 and Intel.
    I'm so tired to find everytime a way to make these terrible drivers work in Ubuntu and package them in a PPA.

    Anyway also Canonical and Dell are responsible of this mess because they didn't buy a premium support from Intel when shipping netbook with this chipset, that's why there were no more updates of the original 'psb' driver.
    But a big thank you to you and the other members of the GMA500 team for keeping our machines running for years, when Intel has abandoned us.

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  • lucazade
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    There are no words to express my feelings about Gma500 and Intel.
    I'm so tired to find everytime a way to make these terrible drivers work in Ubuntu and package them in a PPA.

    Anyway also Canonical and Dell are responsible of this mess because they didn't buy a premium support from Intel when shipping netbook with this chipset, that's why there were no more updates of the original 'psb' driver.

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  • grege
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    @Fireburn

    When I purchased my Dell Mini 12 there was a working driver, a binary blob - but it worked. In fact you could purchase the notebook from Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed and with a working video driver. They just failed to ever update it so that over time the blob would no longer work with newer Xorg and kernel versions, so it was use Ubuntu 8.04 forever or seek alternatives. So far the EMGD driver has been able to be forced into newer Ubuntus, but I doubt it has been successful elsewhere. I think there was an Arch version of the Ubuntu work. So for me it has been Ubuntu or nothing or worse than nothing - XP.

    My Dell runs Xubuntu 11.10 and works fine for what it is, it is just hard work to do each update.

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  • FireBurn
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    Originally posted by gururise View Post
    I have an Acer AspireOne. What a big mistake it was to buy that netbook. I bought it back when it first came out a few years ago, thinking that MeeGo would support it, since its an ATOM notebook. The only information/updates I have received in all these years is from Phoronix. So I very much appreciate Michael's pushing Intel on this issue.

    We have waited years for descent support. We got a binary driver a few years back, but thats never been updated, and with each new kernel release and new release of X.org/Mesa, the old driver keeps breaking. It is very frustrating as a user. Even Windows support on the Poulsbo platform is god-awful, with multiple drivers, each supporting a different subset of features, but at least with Windows you get working 3d (sort-of) without hacks.

    It's too bad, the PowerVR hardware is good. But the driver situation is a terrible mess. I will never ever buy another ATOM/Poulsbo again.
    Out of interest why did you buy it in the first place - every linux review around the blogosphere slated it and warned against using it

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  • Kano
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    If you dont need it anymore, feel free to send it to me. I have got no gma 500 test hardware.

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  • gururise
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    I have an Acer AspireOne. What a big mistake it was to buy that netbook. I bought it back when it first came out a few years ago, thinking that MeeGo would support it, since its an ATOM notebook. The only information/updates I have received in all these years is from Phoronix. So I very much appreciate Michael's pushing Intel on this issue.

    We have waited years for descent support. We got a binary driver a few years back, but thats never been updated, and with each new kernel release and new release of X.org/Mesa, the old driver keeps breaking. It is very frustrating as a user. Even Windows support on the Poulsbo platform is god-awful, with multiple drivers, each supporting a different subset of features, but at least with Windows you get working 3d (sort-of) without hacks.

    It's too bad, the PowerVR hardware is good. But the driver situation is a terrible mess. I will never ever buy another ATOM/Poulsbo again.

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  • grege
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    If you owned a GMA500 device ......

    If you owned a GMA500 device you would be "buttfrustrated" too.

    Michael, please keep shouting until Intel fix the mess they created. The only good thing is that my Dell Mini 12 will die eventually and I can never, ever, get another notebook with an unsupported chipset. I have been stuck with using Xubuntu and shoehorning in the EMGD driver. At least there is a vibrant community (with an Ubuntu PPA) effort to make GMA500 work with each new release. But, it is getting harder for them each time as they have to trick the system into thinking an old version of Xorg is actually newer than the one shipped with the distro. My Xubuntu 11.10 works well enough with 2d and video acceleration, and enough 3d (OpenGL 1.2) to let the Xfce desktop have a few effects. You can forget Gnome3. And you have to know what you are doing just to boot and install on the hardware. The new poulsbo-gfx driver will, at least, make that a little easier.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by Wyatt View Post
    Because the overall tone of this barely-coherent screed just screams "buttfrustrated". I mean, my god, man! You'd think Intel is actively hunting down driver developers and going Highlander on them.

    It's one thing to be honest in your assessment of a poor situation, but to crucify a product that's not even out yet is just bad form and harms your (Phoronix's) reputation.
    It was only my first coffee of the day when writing this piece this morning... But yes, frustrating as well, especially when spending an hour last night trying to explain the Linux driver situation to another media person. When Intel will quote me in their press briefings yet not invite me to those briefings themselves, yet I'm the one that ends up getting contacted by other people for Linux clarifications when the Intel PR people don't know/understand something concerning Linux support. The same also largely goes for AMD.

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