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Originally posted by BlackStar View PostPositive racism is still racism.
To asume that every person, every culture is equal is rather naive. Btw. the term equal does not value, people do.
@Important mesa users
Compositing is not really important, you can use most WM quite good without compositing. Actually Gnome 3.0 is the first major system to force compositing and is not really doing that ("old" mode).
So personally I can understand that compositing is not highest on the dev's list. If compositing does not work you can still use most desktops around.
@monraaf bla bla bla ... try better with flaming, you are too obvious and thus unfunny.
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You gotta love the sense of entitlement within the KDE community.
The sole purpose of upstream is to cater to KDE and its Kitsch Window Manager. Every upstream commit, even if it consists only of white space fixes, must be tested to make sure it does not negatively affect KDE/KWin in any way. Those who do not abide or simply forget will have to face the wrath of angry KDE bloggers and KDE foot soldiers spewing their hate on various forums.
Reality check: In spite of what you may think, the world does not revolve around KDE. No really.
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Originally posted by kraftman View PostIt seems they mainly care about gnome. I believed KDE and Gnome are treated equally, but now I see this is not true.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostAre you serious? They are perfectly willing to test Gnome but flat-out refuse to test KDE? So they work hard to make sure Firefox works, work hard to make sure Gnome works, but knowingly break KDE?
"Mesa is our most important upstream and KWin (together with Compiz and Mutter) are your most important downstreams." is not even close to be true. They're very important, but they're not even close to be the most important. Reality is that no one is getting paid to make sure KWin works on latest Mesa3D and that by itself makes it pretty insignificant. In fact there's very few people running KDE as their main DE at all here.
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Originally posted by kraftman View PostIt seems they care only what Red Hat does, my friend. Some of them were saying they're testing drivers to work with gnome shell well. Since gnome shell sucks and even Ubuntu won't ship it, it doesn't even matter if OS drivers works well with it or not. Others have to suffer, because of idiocy.
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Originally posted by BlackStar View PostPlus, his racist remark was very ill-conceived.
Thumbs up for spotting it.
Originally posted by energymanBtw, which users are more important than the composite using window managers?
Games? Surely not - since opensource drivers, especially intel's suck way to much for that. CAD? Don't try to be funny. There is a reason workstation drivers (from amd and nvidia) are seldomly updated and certified to run workstation applications.
So what is left - xmms ogl analyzer plugin?
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Originally posted by energyman View Postisn't it great? They do a stupid change (idiotic even) and when people (rightfully) complain, they shut them down.
And people are surprised that there aren't more mesa/driver devs.
Btw, which users are more important than the composite using window managers?
Games? Surely not - since opensource drivers, especially intel's suck way to much for that. CAD? Don't try to be funny. There is a reason workstation drivers (from amd and nvidia) are seldomly updated and certified to run workstation applications.
So what is left - xmms ogl analyzer plugin?
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isn't it great? They do a stupid change (idiotic even) and when people (rightfully) complain, they shut them down.
And people are surprised that there aren't more mesa/driver devs.
Btw, which users are more important than the composite using window managers?
Games? Surely not - since opensource drivers, especially intel's suck way to much for that. CAD? Don't try to be funny. There is a reason workstation drivers (from amd and nvidia) are seldomly updated and certified to run workstation applications.
So what is left - xmms ogl analyzer plugin?
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