Intel Calls For More Modular PC Designs, Easier Component Replacement/Upgrades

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  • phoronix
    Administrator
    • Jan 2007
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    Intel Calls For More Modular PC Designs, Easier Component Replacement/Upgrades

    Phoronix: Intel Calls For More Modular PC Designs, Easier Component Replacement/Upgrades

    In an Intel blog post today they outlined their desire for a more modular PC design to enhance repairability and reduce e-waste. It's very much along similar lines of the Framework Computer upgradeable and easily serviceable laptops. With some luck hopefully we will be seeing more modular PC designs moving forward...

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  • geerge
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 362

    #2
    How about they reduce e-waste by producing something worth a damn.

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    • joaquinvacas
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2022
      • 36

      #3
      -Said the company that recently announced SoCs with limited, soldered RAM on them.

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      • skeevy420
        Senior Member
        • May 2017
        • 8664

        #4
        That's rich coming from Socket Tick-Fucking-Tock.

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        • MadCatX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 396

          #5
          That is one bizarre blog post. The part of making desktop PCs more modular in particular felt like it was written by someone completely out of touch. The laptop part made a bit more sense but if we want to make laptops less disposable, how about we:
          - Design the HW to survive meaningfully longer than the warranty and a bit of safety margin?
          - Stop using the BIOS HW whitelists?
          - Don't solder everything we can on the board?
          - Sell configurations that actually allow for some upgrades. A device with 16 GiB soldered-on RAM and one slot that is already used for another 16 GiB is not really upgradeable anyway.

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          • SilverBird775
            Phoronix Member
            • Jul 2019
            • 65

            #6
            Reducing e-waste is the noble efforts indeed. Do whatever I can myself.
            So, how about extending the product Lifecycle and End of Support? What a difference a modular design can do if the official support terminates too early. See what happens with a smartphones today.
            Or is it a trap to actually make the individual module lifecycle even shorter? Smells so fishy. Oh, I see, "Do not worry, your notebook is perfectly fine, you just need to upgrade your CPU board".

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            • Mitch
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 375

              #7
              Originally posted by joaquinvacas View Post
              -Said the company that recently announced SoCs with limited, soldered RAM on them.
              I'm perhaps in a minority here, but I'm completely open to soldered RAM solutions wherever they uniquely and significantly benefit system performance or power draw, and especially where we get affordable and diverse configurations (e.g 16GB, 64GB, 256GB).

              I have a Framework 13 laptop and if I could put an APU or SOC that's way more efficient, is affordable, and has enough RAM, I'm going that route. Now, LPCAMM2 may provide benefits close enough to soldered that I'd prefer that instead, but we don't have a bevy of data on that quite yet.

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              • anarki2
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 859

                #8
                That's from the company that occasionally solders WiFi chips to the laptop boards, then comes up with random buses like CNVio, then releases a "PCI-E" chip that only works in Intel boards (BE200).

                Alright then.

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                • Quackdoc
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 5089

                  #9
                  we have seen these lots, snooze, if framework or someone announces intel has contacted them, then I will care.

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                  • NotMine999
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 1038

                    #10
                    I remember working on PCs back in the days of the original IBM PC and PC-XT and PC-AT. They were incredibly modular with all sorts of add-in boards (some with socketed options). Some even had socketed RAM chips on the mobo along with the usual socketed CPU. Even some add-in memory boards had sockets (and later, "RAM slots". And cables? Some computer insides could be "rat's nests" of all sorts of cables.

                    Sadly, most computer purchasers back in those days could not figure out how to successfully add/upgrade boards & socketed bits to their systems. I mean seriously "computer illiterate" people. They made me lots of money doing "repair" work.

                    I think it was for those illiterate people that Apple initially saw a marketing niche; Steve Jobs was absolutely nobody's dummy when it came to marketing. And more power to Apple for finding a niche instead of being a "ME Too!!" player. That niche play allowed Apple to prosper & grow.

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