Intel & Canonical Collaborate On Graphics Preview Stack For Ubuntu 24.10

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  • geerge
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 367

    #21
    Originally posted by sarmad View Post

    What do you mean by numbers, do you mean install count? I'm not sure if Ubuntu is still as wide spread as it once was, but if it's still the most popular then it makes sense for Intel to collaborate with Canonical.
    Yes that's what I meant and that's why they collaborate with them. intel already do binary releases often as debs only so it's the path of least resistance for them. Ubuntu still has the numbers just like windows 10 still has the numbers.

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    • ahrs
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2021
      • 587

      #22
      Originally posted by geerge View Post

      Red Hat. Ubuntu just has the numbers.
      People don't run Red Hat on a desktop (okay, maybe some clinically insane people do but most will run Fedora with an up-to-date kernel and graphics stack). If you're going to partner with a desktop focused distribution it makes sense to do so with the one that is going to benefit from it the most.

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      • Smurphy
        Phoronix Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 111

        #23
        Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post

        I prefer Snaps on Ubuntu over Flatpaks anywhere else (including my favorite distro Fedora). I started out on Ubuntu, and feel they still today provide the best desktop experience. Them doing Snaps isn't a light decision, them still doing it implies it's working, and even though I absolutely can't stand most abstraction (Proton, Lutris, Wayland, libinput, Docker/containers, immutable/Atomic, Flatpak), I don't have anything negative with Ubuntu and Snaps.
        ...
        First thing I do when installing an Ubuntu system, is dump snap.
        The reason there is a package manager, is to keep the amount of data to be loaded into memory low by sharing libraries and whatever can be shared.
        Snap is just another layer on top of it, like AppImage, which is not necessary.

        If I really have no choice but to use one of these, I use an AppImage. Does not require the entire SNAPD crap taking over my system.
        Linuxer since the early beginnings...

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        • geerge
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2023
          • 367

          #24
          Originally posted by ahrs View Post

          People don't run Red Hat on a desktop (okay, maybe some clinically insane people do but most will run Fedora with an up-to-date kernel and graphics stack). If you're going to partner with a desktop focused distribution it makes sense to do so with the one that is going to benefit from it the most.
          Don't be dense, the post I replied to talked companies so I followed suit, clearly we meant Fedora.

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          • jonkoops
            Phoronix Member
            • Dec 2019
            • 100

            #25
            Originally posted by Jumbotron View Post

            Who does a better job of shipping a better Linux experience out of the box for most people amongst the Big Three, Red Hat, Suse and Canonical ? Another question is why didn’t Intel choose to debut this with Red Hat or Suse ? Willingness on their part ? Or Canonical is better able to be a partner
            Because it just works in any distro that decides to ship the latest Mesa and Kernel (e.g. Fedora), so there is no need for this.

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            • ahrs
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2021
              • 587

              #26
              Originally posted by geerge View Post

              Don't be dense, the post I replied to talked companies so I followed suit, clearly we meant Fedora.
              What's the benefit to Fedora when they're going to ship up-to-date kernels and drivers anyway? It makes more sense to partner with Ubuntu because if Intel didn't do this then Ubuntu literally wouldn't be able to use the hardware properly until Canonical gets around to updating their HWE stack whenever the hell that is done (they should have a rolling HWE stack in my opinion).

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              • ahrs
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2021
                • 587

                #27
                Originally posted by geerge View Post

                Don't be dense, the post I replied to talked companies so I followed suit, clearly we meant Fedora.
                What's the benefit to Fedora when they're going to ship up-to-date kernels and drivers anyway? It makes more sense to partner with Ubuntu because if Intel didn't do this then Ubuntu literally wouldn't be able to use the hardware properly until Canonical gets around to updating their HWE stack whenever the hell that is done (they should have a rolling HWE stack in my opinion).

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                • woddy
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2023
                  • 285

                  #28
                  In my opinion Ubuntu is no longer the reference distribution (most used) in the desktop environment, as is not even RHE
                  We must then distinguish server from desktop...
                  However today things are changing, the classic LTS like Debian, but also Ubuntu or RH remain "insecure", although engineers do everything to make an excellent backport for security, it is not always possible to do it and not always doing it is painless due to some bug problems that are generated by the backports. Sooner or later they will find a solution...but for desktop users, a rolling or semi-rolling desktop is much safer provided there is a rollback system.
                  On the issue of the Intel-Canonical collaboration, I imagine there is no surprise, among other things they collaborate for a ppa that according to them has only a test functionality.​

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                  • royce
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 660

                    #29
                    Originally posted by Britoid View Post
                    Eh, RHEL is a decade ahead of Ubuntu/Debian when it comes to the server stack.

                    If you want to see what open source software will be in Ubuntu/Debian in 10 years time, download Rocky/Alma.
                    You couldn't be more wrong if you tried with regards to Ubuntu. Canonical's ecosystem of tools is second to none on the server stack. At least as good as red hat's, and far more flexible and license-free.

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                    • royce
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 660

                      #30
                      Originally posted by ahrs View Post
                      until Canonical gets around to updating their HWE stack whenever the hell that is done
                      It's usually done on each point release except the first one. 24.04.2 should be released sometime in the next 6 to 8 weeks with the kernel and graphics stack from 24.10.

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