Windows 11 vs. Linux Benchmarks For Intel Arc B-Series "Battlemage" Shows Strengths & Weaknesses

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  • phoronix
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    • Jan 2007
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    Windows 11 vs. Linux Benchmarks For Intel Arc B-Series "Battlemage" Shows Strengths & Weaknesses

    Phoronix: Windows 11 vs. Linux Benchmarks For Intel Arc B-Series "Battlemage" Shows Strengths & Weaknesses

    Last week with the availability of the Intel Arc B-Series Battlemage graphics cards I ran benchmarks looking at the GPU compute performance, Linux gaming benchmarks, and also the workstation graphics capabilities. The Intel Arc B580 graphics showed some nice generational uplift under Linux for most workloads but there were some anomalies where clearly the Intel Linux graphics driver had room to better optimize the new Xe2/Battlemage graphics support. Windows benchmarks of the Intel Arc B580 also showed it performing more competitively to the likes of the GeForce RTX 4060 compared to what I was seeing under Linux. Thus I spent the past few days working on some Windows 11 vs. Ubuntu Linux graphics benchmarks for both Intel Arc Graphics of Alchemist and Battlemage GPUs to see how the performance compares.

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  • andre30correia
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 1151

    #2
    tha vulkan driver anv is piece of garbage

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    • avis
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2022
      • 2142

      #3
      Strengths: real games
      Weaknesses: benchmarks.

      BTW, Michael, did you really use the vulkan renderer for CS2 under Windows (CS2 -> Properties -> General -> Launch Options -> -vulkan)? By default it targets D3D11 which is faster and more optimized.

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      • loganj
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 603

        #4
        not that great for gaming on linux unless u use opengl

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        • MillionToOne
          Phoronix Member
          • Aug 2024
          • 108

          #5
          Originally posted by andre30correia View Post
          tha vulkan driver anv is piece of garbage
          Couldn't agree more. Hopefully they start improving it with 2 generations of discrete cards already out.

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          • M@GOid
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 2080

            #6
            Judging by the results of A series cards, those expecting any gaming optimizations from Intel for the B series will be left disappointed. Basically their driver only received testing in common Linux benchmarks, but not in any actual game.

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            • stormcrow
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2017
              • 1511

              #7
              Originally posted by avis View Post
              Strengths: real games
              Weaknesses: benchmarks.

              BTW, Michael, did you really use the vulkan renderer for CS2 under Windows (CS2 -> Properties -> General -> Launch Options -> -vulkan)? By default it targets D3D11 which is faster and more optimized.
              D3D11 would be the more relevant test as most games are going to use D3D by default on Windows not Vulkan or OpenGL. :P I know, you're supposed to compare apples to apples, but the point of making relevant benchmarks isn't to compare the apple to apples (generic), it's to compare a Red Delicious (yuck) to a Pink Lady (yum) specifically. By that I mean comparing the real use cases, not theoretical. When you're comparing the UX between Linux and WIndows you have to therefore compare OpenGL/Vulkan to D3D. Direct Vulkan to Vulkan Windows/Linux comparisons are only relevant if the game is using the same code pathway for both OSes by default.

              Also, really really wish the Blender benchmark would stop reporting the time, and report the real benchmark output, which doesn't measure time. It reports on the number of compute units processed for a specific scene. The time element isn't really that important for what the benchmarks scenes are designed for. They're all supposed to complete within about 20-30 seconds regardless of how many units were processed. (Which might be why A770 outperformed the B580, but it's impossible to know because the benchmark isn't reporting the relevant statistics).
              Last edited by stormcrow; 17 December 2024, 01:14 PM.

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              • sophisticles
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2015
                • 2521

                #8
                By now it's clear that the Arc family of cards is great for certain specific use cases.

                If you want gaming, buy NVIDIA.

                If you want compute, buy NVIDIA.

                If you are working with video, buy NVIDIA.

                If you are on a tight budget, want respectable gaming, compute and video editing capabilities, buy Intel.

                If you are an even tighter budget and are content with decent gaming, compute and video editing capabilities, buy an AMD APU.

                And if you are nuts, buy an AMD video card.

                It's that simple.

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                • Quackdoc
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 4950

                  #9
                  Would love to see more applications eventually since this doesn't show case my experience but well, I know how automated testing goes. I wonder how image recognition would work out hmmm

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                  • blackshard
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 599

                    #10
                    Originally posted by avis View Post
                    Strengths: real games
                    Weaknesses: benchmarks.
                    What games? Those ancient games that don't tell anything about the real performances of those cards on current and past titles.

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