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  • lowflyer
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    Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post

    You're going to be driven away from an OS based on what some unrelated company does?
    "Unrelated" ????

    Well, this is from Wikipedia:
    The Linux Foundation sponsors the work of Linux creator Linus Torvalds and lead maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman.
    One has not to look very far (Victoria Secret, Starbucks) to see that going woke will inevitably sink the ship. I'm leaving beforehand.

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  • Arthus
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    A patch was posted that re-introduces compatibility with v69 firmware:
    https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/[email protected]/T/

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  • NotMine999
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    Originally posted by osw89 View Post

    Privileged white people (mostly on twitter) pretending to be worried about imaginary problems has been a thing for quite now. They gotta feel virtuous and good without doing anything meaningful, you know.
    That is how those people that you mention bring "meaning" to the lives of everyone around them.

    They practice a curious but useless form of social enrichment.

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  • osw89
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    Originally posted by jorgepl View Post

    So this is all about "white males", right? You guys create controversies out of nothing dude...
    Privileged white people (mostly on twitter) pretending to be worried about imaginary problems has been a thing for quite now. They gotta feel virtuous and good without doing anything meaningful, you know.

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  • jorgepl
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    Originally posted by mangeek View Post

    What's the 'cost' of all the people who aren't in the industry because it's viewed as a toxic environment by folks who aren't white males? I think it's probably in the tens of billions per year, perhaps more. This isn't 'the one solution', but modernizing the language to be more inclusive seems like an investment.

    Perhaps you missed it... I don't think this is 'Orwellian policing', nobody marched over to my cube and said that my language was wrong. The changes have been cultural, happening all around us for decades. IMO, this is more of a helpful guide than a book of laws.

    And you're still missing the whole thing about the use of 'tribes'. Nobody says you can't be proud of your heritage in a tribal culture... nobody is saying 'tribes' are bad. What we're saying is that in the typical conversational context, e.g., "The Desktop Printer Tribe vs the Paperless Tribe", there's an echo of colonialism.
    So this is all about "white males", right? You guys create controversies out of nothing dude...

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  • osw89
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    Originally posted by mangeek View Post

    What's the 'cost' of all the people who aren't in the industry because it's viewed as a toxic environment by folks who aren't white males?
    Ah yes, all the poor people that gave up on tech because people use terms such as "blacklisting" and "master". I'm really sick of seeing deluded first worlders with too few problems in their lives make up imaginary problems because they want to feel virtuous. Here's a hint, sane, mentally healthy people capable of using their brains don't think of slavery and throw a tantrum when they look at a git repo and see a branch called master, nor do they actively look for problems to get mad at where there are none.

    I have never seen or heard of anyone get offended by such regular terminology up until some privileged people on twitter(who are almost completely white just like the people you blame everything on) started to get outraged over nothing.

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  • Luke
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    Since it is well known that "he who pays the piper calls the tune," for the Linux Foundation to fund Michael and Phoronix could save them a lot of time and money elsewhere down the road. For the sheer amount of money that servers running Linux pull in, there is a lot of potential value and "fanout" here. The alternative is to let bugs in general get all the way out to production servers (and cost people like Red Hat and their customers money), or to run the same detailed, "drill down" testing on a set of dedicated test servers. These servers already exist at Phoronix, and with this sort of funding Michael could get more of them and already has labor-saving automated tools worked out to multiply their effectiveness.

    Catching bugs like this one while still in the RC stage could save a lot of people a lot of money. While this bug hits Intel accelerated graphics, the next one could hit RAID handling or something else critical to server users. How many linux servers on the entire planet get paid tech support from someone when something goes wrong? For that matter, how many people would take their desktop to someone they pay to fix the problem if their package manager feeds them this bug with a kernel update. What does all this add up to, and how much more does it add up to than paying experts who already exist and already have excellent hardware and tools to catch these things ONCE, before reaching rc-3?

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  • archkde
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    Originally posted by mangeek View Post

    What's the 'cost' of all the people who aren't in the industry because it's viewed as a toxic environment by folks who aren't white males? I think it's probably in the tens of billions per year, perhaps more. This isn't 'the one solution', but modernizing the language to be more inclusive seems like an investment.
    Tens of billions is probably a huge understatement when about half of the population is excluded based on gender alone.

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  • mangeek
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    Originally posted by jorgepl View Post

    You may have your reasons, and I really do respect that. But that's one thing and another is spending 0.5MUSD in an foundation expressely built for policying the names others put to their project branches/whatever. Seriously, can't you see how much of that money could be used to fund seriously understaffed projects?

    GIMP is still in GTK2!
    What's the 'cost' of all the people who aren't in the industry because it's viewed as a toxic environment by folks who aren't white males? I think it's probably in the tens of billions per year, perhaps more. This isn't 'the one solution', but modernizing the language to be more inclusive seems like an investment.

    Perhaps you missed it... I don't think this is 'Orwellian policing', nobody marched over to my cube and said that my language was wrong. The changes have been cultural, happening all around us for decades. IMO, this is more of a helpful guide than a book of laws.

    And you're still missing the whole thing about the use of 'tribes'. Nobody says you can't be proud of your heritage in a tribal culture... nobody is saying 'tribes' are bad. What we're saying is that in the typical conversational context, e.g., "The Desktop Printer Tribe vs the Paperless Tribe", there's an echo of colonialism.

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  • openminded
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    Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
    ...
    You know, whenever I read anything you post here on Phoronix forums, I do not agree with your point of view. Except for this one.

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