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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    I believe ATI had some deals with open source developers to help create the r100 driver back in the day. Not sure if they spent any money on developers themselves or just provided specs. I'd agree that it's misleading to argue that AMD has supported open drivers more than Intel has, though.
    IIRC we funded development of open source drivers back in the Rage Pro (Mach 64) days, working with Precision Insight / VA Linux in the late 90's.

    As agd5f said, our focus was open source drivers during most of our history other than the period between ~2002 and 2007. We acquired FireGL around 2001 and inherited the fglrx driver from them. By that time drm was becoming a much bigger deal with other OS vendors and that was making support of open source drivers more difficult, so we tried using fglrx as the primary Linux driver for ATI/AMD GPUs.

    Having fglrx as our only driver turned out not to be a complete solution, so with AMD's support we restarted open source GPU driver work and started the process of modifying our hardware so that open source drivers and robust DRM could co-exist.
    Last edited by bridgman; 25 August 2021, 07:26 AM.

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  • agd5f
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    Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post

    How so?
    AFAIK, Intel was already investing into MesaGL long before AMD even had a graphics division, back when ATi was still an independent company with arguably the most horrendous GPU drivers known to mankind.
    ATI provided documentation and assistance on open source developers for pretty much all early ATI GPUs (Mach32, Mach64, Rage128, Radeon, R200, R3xx/R4xx). This was long before Intel even had graphics hardware. It trailed off a bit during the R5xx days, but then when AMD bought ATI, AMD started providing documentation and assistance to developers again and hired several people to work on the open source drivers (myself included). The team has been growing ever since. We still had closed source drivers in parallel which focused on workstation, but over time more and move of the driver stack has migrated to open source. Pretty much as long as AMD as owned ATI it has been supporting open source GPU drivers.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post

    How so?
    AFAIK, Intel was already investing into MesaGL long before AMD even had a graphics division, back when ATi was still an independent company with arguably the most horrendous GPU drivers known to mankind.
    I believe ATI had some deals with open source developers to help create the r100 driver back in the day. Not sure if they spent any money on developers themselves or just provided specs. I'd agree that it's misleading to argue that AMD has supported open drivers more than Intel has, though.

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  • Linuxxx
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    Originally posted by agd5f View Post

    AMD has supported open source graphics drivers arguably for longer than Intel has.
    How so?
    AFAIK, Intel was already investing into MesaGL long before AMD even had a graphics division, back when ATi was still an independent company with arguably the most horrendous GPU drivers known to mankind.

    BTW, same friendly reminder to You, too:
    Please make sure that all the necessary software bits for the entirety of AMD's 2022 product line-up make it in usable form into Ubuntu 22.04 LTS.
    And if that means backporting patches, then at least make sure to inform Canonical in advance, please.

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  • Jabberwocky
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    "Alchemist" sounds like it's aimed at the cryptocurrency crowd.
    Intel Arc GPU codenames A, B, and D are inspired from Dungeons and Dragons names. C is a odd one as Steve from GamersNexus says: https://youtu.be/F3kE-3ZLA0Q?t=182

    Funny that these cards will be made at TSMC. Those people signing the contract must have been laughing all the way to the bank.

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  • agd5f
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    Originally posted by dylanmtaylor View Post
    Not surprised that Intel is going to have open-source drivers for these new cards from day one, but I'm happy about it. They've always been good about this, long before AMD ever had an open source driver.
    AMD has supported open source graphics drivers arguably for longer than Intel has.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    "Alchemist" sounds like it's aimed at the cryptocurrency crowd.
    I dunno. Based on all their names I'd guess at a mix of RPG players, anime fans, and Pegans.
    • Alchemist
    • Battlemage
    • Celestial
    • Druid

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  • DanL
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    "Alchemist" sounds like it's aimed at the cryptocurrency crowd.

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  • dylanmtaylor
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    Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post

    Yeah, now let's just hope that Linux 5.16 is still released this year and therefore becomes next year's LTS release, which also means it's the kernel which is going to be shipped with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS.

    Else either Canonical will have to backport the patches to their kernel themselves (AFAIR they already did this in the past before) or most users will be stuck waiting until January 2023, when Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS should ship with the 22.10 Hardware-Enablement Stack.
    You could also use a different distro or a custom kernel to get these features.

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  • scottishduck
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    Something funny about Intel having the opportunity to release into a market where people would buy these cards, even if they were terrible and now are seemingly going to miss that window.

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