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  • #11
    Originally posted by dlq84 View Post

    6-9 months from now is not "right now", though. We'll see if the chip shortage is still a thing when this thing gets out. GPU mining will mostly be dead by then.
    I lost rope by now in this shortage ending before a couple more years. Is good business for everybody but consumers.

    And mining? Is like the drugs. You make one not profitable, they invent another one. Just like drugs, that scam is here to stay, messing with the lives of everybody.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by bug77 View Post
      Like I said before: if people would be buying powerpoints and PR material, Intel would be rolling in $$$ by now.

      Call it "pink elephant" for all I care. Just don't bother me till it's on shelves.
      I'd say it's not even a choice for Intel. With all the AI things going forward and GPUs generally seeing more and more use everywhere, Intel basically must go there.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by M@GOid View Post
        I sincerely hope that the name wasn't chosen because of high power requirements in these cards...
        lol yeah... should anything go wrong electrically, the name will backfire. Kinda reminds me of the Suzuki Esteem, which was such a boring, uninspiring, and forgettable vehicle.
        But speaking seriously, Intel couldn't had a better time to launch those. The market will buy anything right now, even if it under-perform compared to its rivals.
        Yep, it's still going to take a long time for Intel to really polish drivers. First impressions can be pretty damning, but Intel will be fairly immune even if it doesn't work well, because not enough gamers will get their hands on them anyway to have a lasting impression. By the time there's not much of a supply issue, they should have a solid product.

        Originally posted by dlq84 View Post
        6-9 months from now is not "right now", though. We'll see if the chip shortage is still a thing when this thing gets out. GPU mining will mostly be dead by then.
        The chip shortage isn't going anywhere any time soon. It's going to be longer than 9 months, though hopefully, Intel will help alleviate the shortage by having competing products not produced by TSMC or Samsung.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
          Wth. Arc? Brand management?
          I think they should take a page from their CPU division.
          Choose one name and stick to it.
          Core has worked well for 15 years.
          Nvidias "GeForce" for more than two decades.
          I think that’s the plan.
          But Xe was a stupid name. It could be prononced many ways, it needed the case Xe to be recognizable.
          So they fixed this terrible bad marketing before releasing anything…

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          • #15
            Originally posted by doomie View Post

            i mean, and i don't expect exactly this, but i'd risk a mined 3080 for like $100
            Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've bought three used "miner" cards at super low prices in the past few years with no issues. It's my understanding that miners will re-flash the card with a firmware that reduces voltages and fan speeds to get the most performance/watt out of the cards. Two of the ones I bought were sold with full disclosure and after I flashed back to factory (and replaced one fan on one) they have been working fine. The third wasn't advertised as a mining card but it was obviously detuned, and flashing the firmware back to stock got it back in shape too. They were all Radeon cards, btw.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by M@GOid View Post
              I sincerely hope that the name wasn't chosen because of high power requirements in these cards...
              It sounds like they confused high-performance with high-voltage!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by dlq84 View Post
                GPU mining will mostly be dead by then.
                We can only hope.

                GPU mining already died several times before...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
                  Wth. Arc? Brand management?
                  I think they should take a page from their CPU division.
                  Choose one name and stick to it.
                  Are you saying they should've stuck with Xe? That was always problematic, due to being the chemical symbol for Xenon, which is way too damn close to their Xeon branding.

                  Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
                  Core has sucked for 15 years.
                  Fixed that for you.

                  "Core" was one of the dumbest names they could've chosen, right at the dawn of the multi-core CPU era. I'm sure it's caused a tremendous amount of unnecessary confusion, over the past 1.5 decades.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                    hopefully, Intel will help alleviate the shortage by having competing products not produced by TSMC or Samsung.
                    Oh, but Intel is making DG2 on TSMC 7 nm!

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                    • #20
                      What an informative video! 0% misinformation, 100% uncertainty on what I have actually seen, and sure do I want to watch it again! Best 19 seconds of my life.

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