Intel Icelake "Gen11" Graphics Are A Huge Upgrade Over Gen9 With Good Linux Support

[dos1]

For non 2-in-1, XPS 13 7390 has i3-10110U, i5-10210U, i5-10510U, i7-10710U options for its CPU. There's one more i7 AFAIK in some markets, but it's from the U line as well.

This is the one with G CPUs: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/2-in...-2-in-1-laptop
This is the one with U CPUs: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell...13-7390-laptop

Those are two different laptops.

[Michael]

There is no Dell XPS 7390 with i7-1065G7. There is a 2-in-1, but that's a different line than the one on the photos.

Remember, there are two separate lines of Dell XPS ultrabooks with the same model numbers - one that can rotate 360° and one that can't. Those get completely different internals.

My laptop is certainly with the 'i7-1065G7'.

Checking in on my order receipt, it says ' XPS 13 2in1 7390'

But, yes, based on the dual hinges and trying again just now this can't rotate like a 2-in1.

[dos1]

There is no Dell XPS 7390 with i7-1065G7. There is a 2-in-1, but that's a different line than the one on the photos.

Remember, there are two separate lines of Dell XPS ultrabooks with the same model numbers - one that can rotate 360° and one that can't. Those get completely different internals.

When it comes to upgrades over Dell XPS line, this test seems to be comparing apples to oranges.

[darktable14]

Does anyone know how the OpenCL performance has improved with Icelake?
How does it compare with AMD's APU's?
I'm thinking of Darktable - were in the past Intel's iGPU's were slower than just the CPU. Is that still the case?

[Nille_kungen]

Is that i7-1065G7 configured as 15w or 25w in that laptop?

[JMB9]

SuperTuxKart is still a bit rough on Intel graphics at 10800p

I'm not surprised it's rough at that resolution.

Well, I would love if 10800p would be possible - may be a typo 1080p i.e. FullHD - otherwise my following comment is meaningless.
I can play with a friend {same computer} and maximum number of AI karts and would call STK@1920x1080@60Hz a fluent experience - maybe there was some unnecessary graphics features switched off (doesn't show) - but on a 6 year old Haswell iGPU with Intel i7‑4770T, so Icelake should be capable of using 4k res {it should have similar power to AMD Raven Ridge APU, as was guessed from Intel spec for Icelake} - or are there chipset limitations due to the extreme power reduction which decrease performance so severe?

[JMB9]

The question is not if Icelake is superior - it was the first real step since Haswell - but if Intel can deliver real CPUs and not toys for super-thin laptops.
For those using such devices it is a big win - but for those using workstations Intel has not delivered since more than 6 years.
And it is to note that Icelake has 8k long before AMD is able to reach 8k - like Haswell delivered real 4k when no 4k screens were available.
The important desktop is neglected - I don't think that this is a good idea.
And rumours are that 10 nm architecture of Intel may not be capable enough for a real desktop CPU - thus no Icelake Desktop CPU may appear.
So this does not help Intel getting a better image on HW - currently they have at least the best reputation concerning Linux driver quality.
But the hopes AMD can deliver are blown right now - only Navi in principle capable of 8k and no desktop CPU/APU around but still making one Raven Ridge enhancement after another.
Yes, maybe gamers are happy, but no workstation usage there. And not to speak about drivers - 1st they should be stable, as a 2nd they should get feature complete. From my point of view AMD systems are a risk disaster for Linux users right now. Ans saying its the chipset does not help but showing that they neglect responsibility. From my point of view LF should provide a label for Linux compliance concerning the Linux/Mesa/X.11|Wayland (libinput etc.) stack, for CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, graphic cards, controllers, ... mid 1990-ies one had a list of working HW - which really worked.
Today you get info about vague support - only to see later that said HW can not be used for a stable system.
And concerning technical transparency both are a real catastrophy. No date for future products (Intel is working on 10 nm desktop - whow - when? AMD may have a Navi APU someday - when? We will get to now when it is officially released. AMD is well behind concerning Linux support - especially in respect of stability.)
And the most important news is from driver code (we knew in Oct. 2018 that Intel provides Mesa possibility for 5k+) done by Phoronix - and got the Info with Linux 5.4 it will be doable. I am happy about that pieces of info, but I want to see such information from the HW vendors. And not jokes like DP - yes, HDMI - yes or implementing DP 1.2 in 2018|19 {when DP 1.4 was released on 01. March 2016} (yes, Coffee Lake Refresh: 9th Gen. Core) - so we can not expect to see DP 2.0 in products till mid 2022 {while it was said 1st devices are there end of 2020 - maybe similar to weather forecasts}.
The only thing missing would be: "It's the best we have right now - just buy it!"
But at least gamers may be happy ... currently that is all what counts, right? And all graphics is FullHD ready.

[Slartifartblast]

SuperTuxKart is still a bit rough on Intel graphics at 10800p

I'm not surprised it's rough at that resolution.

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Intel Icelake "Gen11" Graphics Are A Huge Upgrade Over Gen9 With Good Linux Support

Earlier this week I delivered our initial look at the Core i7-1065G7 Icelake Linux performance compared to Whiskey Lake and Kabylake-R. The CPU performance improvements and performance-per-Watt for this 10nm+ CPU is a big upgrade over those earlier notebooks while now here is our first look at how the Icelake "Gen11" graphics compare to those aging Gen9 graphics.

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=28406