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    Phoronix: Intel Xe Graphics Being Part Of The First US Exascale Supercomputer Is Great For Linux

    Announced on Monday was that the US Department of Energy in cooperation with Argonne National Laboratory will see the "Aurora" supercomputer as the first US Exascale SC coming online in 2021 and featuring Intel's highly anticipated Xe Graphics...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ics- Good-News

  • chuckatkins
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    Originally posted by wizard69 View Post
    I suspect the folks at Fujitsu will argue with you. ... one can easily design ARM architecture supporting chips that are suitable
    Indeed Fujitsu has done just that. The post-K computer being built in Japan by Fujitsu is an ARMv8.2-A architecture with variable length SIMD instrucitons (SVE, Scalable Vector Extensions) that they specifically designed for HPC. See http://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/...8/0822-02.html for the A64FX chip.

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  • oiaohm
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    Originally posted by sireangelus View Post
    no the question is how long can power9 stay relevant on hpc when there is x86.
    X86 is not suitable for the market that Power9 super computers make up. Requirement open hardware inspect-able silicon design is a requirement of that sub set of the super computer market. Currently this is a fight between Sparc based and Power 9 based cpus with risc-v based in future. This is roughly 4 percent of the super computer market that has this requirement. So 96-97 percent of the market where x86 is in super computer is basically totally saturated.

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  • nuetzel
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    that's why they are replacing them with gallium
    Corrected: NIR.

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  • nuetzel
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    Originally posted by marty1885 View Post
    AMD, Navi please... Even Intel is pushing their GPU out. And your Vega, even though is 7nm, is old now. And you haven't push any Navi driver out. I hope Navi has the exact same control as Vega/Polaris does.
    7310 Navi 10
    731f Navi 10

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  • sireangelus
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    TOP500 list is POWER9, POWER9, Sunway, then Xeon, Xeon, Xon, Xeon...

    So POWER9 seems to the king on top, but Xeon seems to be more popular. China seems to be betting on their own Sunway processors.
    How long can x86-based Xeon stay relevant on HPC when there is POWER9?
    Also will we see ARM or RISC-V on the TOP500?
    no the question is how long can power9 stay relevant on hpc when there is x86.

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by Masush5 View Post
    The intel linux drivers are high quality.
    that's why they are replacing them with gallium

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  • wizard69
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    The thing that has me wondering is this, are these coming GPUs even optimized for GPU usage? Could Intel actually be designing a compute engine that also has GPU functionality as an after thought. Such an approach might be better for future work loads in AI and compute.

    Effectively this would be the opposite of the NVidia or AMD approach where compute was more of an after thought in GPU development. As such I wonder if a Linux kernelwill end up running on Xe.

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  • wizard69
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    I suspect the folks at Fujitsu will argue with you. While I agree the majority of ARM hardware available to builders are not suitable for super computer use that really means nothing. Well nothing important because one can easily design ARM architecture supporting chips that are suitable. Frankly ARMs new server chips are a step in that direction.

    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Yes, ARMv8 has vastly improved, and I think a lot of that improvement had servers in mind. But not supercomputers. ARM is fantastic for things like web servers, where you could be handling hundreds of very basic requests, but it's not an ideal architecture for any major number-crunching. Again, nothing says you can't do that, but since most software isn't built/optimized for ARM, if you're going to pick an obscure architecture, you might as well go for one of the many other choices that can likely do a better job.

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  • schmidtbag
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    I heard ARMv8 is vastly improved over ARMv7, and its basically a new architecture.
    That the IPC of Apple A12 "Bionic" is like Intel Core processor or even better.
    That Apple is moving away from Intel to ARM on their Macbooks.
    Yes, ARMv8 has vastly improved, and I think a lot of that improvement had servers in mind. But not supercomputers. ARM is fantastic for things like web servers, where you could be handling hundreds of very basic requests, but it's not an ideal architecture for any major number-crunching. Again, nothing says you can't do that, but since most software isn't built/optimized for ARM, if you're going to pick an obscure architecture, you might as well go for one of the many other choices that can likely do a better job.

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