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When the newest i5 or i7 reaches about 65% faster than my nonk 7700 guess I will upgrade. I am still a bit confused as to why the 9700k no longer has hyperthreading but they offer it on the 9900k.
Can kind of see that 6 to 8 cores is really the way to go.
My old FX 8320 was 66% slower when I upgraded to the 7700 system. So guess I should be good for a little while longer.
Thought of the next upgrade within 3 years might be a 27 inch 4k display and whatever gpu comes out and might be around $350 or cheaper. I mainly game.Last edited by creative; 10 January 2019, 12:18 PM.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAsus Zenphones are fine. The main issue of cheap Intel tablets was running Windows on mobile-grade hardware with total shit eMMC or even shittier flash storage.
Also not only cheap tablets had problems. Running Prime95+Furmark on Microsoft Surface 3 (non-pro) would trigger thermal emergency shutdown.
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Originally posted by chithanh View PostIntel smartphone chipsets were subject of lawsuits about overheating.
None of those is found in Asus ZenFone, and afaik they aren't particularly common in Intel tablets as they were SoCs integrating a 3G or LTE modem, while the overwhelming majority of cheap Intel tablets are wifi-only.
Also not only cheap tablets had problems. Running Prime95+Furmark on Microsoft Surface 3 (non-pro) would trigger thermal emergency shutdown.
I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.
Btw, did you know that Android devices do get hot and trigger thermal shutdown too (or other countermeasures) for much less than that? Mobile devices in general are not designed for long time full load, but for quick spikes of activity or light loads.
I've had my S7 for less than a year now and my phone will overheat during normal use (i.e. no video, music, games, or heavy apps). It will fully charge to 100% and after 10 minutes of use it will be at 60% and if it reaches below 40% battery, the phone will shut off and the battery will be effective...
https://thedroidguy.com/2016/07/fix-...issues-1061551
https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech...m-overheating/
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/...eo/td-p/385060
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostThe lawsuit was about so-called SoFIA SoCs which were Atom x3 C3xxx, only ONE of many Atom product line (and a particularly crappy one if I might add, using 28nm process while other contemporary Intel Atom lines used 22nm process).
None of those is found in Asus ZenFone, and afaik they aren't particularly common in Intel tablets as they were SoCs integrating a 3G or LTE modem, while the overwhelming majority of cheap Intel tablets are wifi-only..
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostI'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostBtw, did you know that Android devices do get hot and trigger thermal shutdown too (or other countermeasures) for much less than that? Mobile devices in general are not designed for long time full load, but for quick spikes of activity or light loads.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostI've had my S7 for less than a year now and my phone will overheat during normal use (i.e. no video, music, games, or heavy apps). It will fully charge to 100% and after 10 minutes of use it will be at 60% and if it reaches below 40% battery, the phone will shut off and the battery will be effective...
https://thedroidguy.com/2016/07/fix-...issues-1061551
https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech...m-overheating/
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/...eo/td-p/385060
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Originally posted by chithanh View PostWith ultra-cheap devices it is somewhat expected. But with a launch price of $499 you might think that it is at least a midrange device. Throttling is ok mind you, but thermal emergency shutdown is not.
That said, I still maintain that actually running CPU Passmark + Furmark is well beyond what is considered a normal load for a tablet, no matter the price. You don't use tablets in a computing node.
And particularly bad this is with Intel Android devices.
Those are isolated complaints.
These are examples of random apps misbehaving and locking the CPU to 100% causing overheat and thermal shutdown in random Android devices.
It's an example about the "normal" behaviour of mobile devices when actually stressed.
There is no need to use dedicated synthetic stress-test applications like CPU Passmark + Furmark to overheat and send a smartphone in thermal shutdown, a normal misbehaving app will be enough.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostThat said, I still maintain that actually running CPU Passmark + Furmark is well beyond what is considered a normal load for a tablet, no matter the price. You don't use tablets in a computing node.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post[citation needed]
I see you are accepting my thesis when it is for Intel Android devices while rejecting it when it's about ARM Android devices.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostThese are examples of random apps misbehaving and locking the CPU to 100% causing overheat and thermal shutdown in random Android devices.
It's an example about the "normal" behaviour of mobile devices when actually stressed.
But for tablets there is no excuse. Apple demonstrated that you can produce $500 tablets that throttle only moderately and never shut off due to overheating.
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