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    Phoronix: Intel Xeon E-2100 Processors Released, Succeeds Xeon E3

    Intel rolled out today the Xeon E-2100 processors as the successor to the Xeon E3 CPUs. The Xeon E-2100 series is intended for entry-level workstations and based upon the Coffeelake CPU microarchitecture...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-E-2100-Series

  • coder
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    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post
    Thanks for the tips. I did end up buying the I3-8100 for now, until the Xeon E-21xx are actually available.
    I'm not recommending this model, but it's currently in stock and sold by Newegg (i.e. not an affiliate):

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2HE-000E-00516

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  • ChamPro
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    Originally posted by coder View Post
    Perhaps you could even find an i3 or Pentium/Celeron Gold on ebay.

    Do note that the LGA 1151 motherboards either support Sky/Kaby Lake or Coffee Lake, but not both! So, that's your first decision.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1151


    If you want to buy new, I think the cheapest Coffee Lake CPU with ECC support is a Celeron G4900, for a list price of merely $42.

    https://ark.intel.com/products/12948...ache-3-10-GHz-
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117871
    Thanks for the tips. I did end up buying the I3-8100 for now, until the Xeon E-21xx are actually available.
    Those 5 "available" stores for the E-21xx chips on Google Shopping/Products are all bunk (the high end E-2186 is out of my price range). I've tried buying from them and they just take your money and say they'll "ship when available". Even MacMall/PCM/TigerDirect, which is kind of sad.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post
    Another option would be buy an I3-8100 for now... currently $116 on NewEgg. And upgrade to the E-2146G when available. Though the benchmarks pitting the two against each other are a little sad.
    Perhaps you could even find an i3 or Pentium/Celeron Gold on ebay.

    Do note that the LGA 1151 motherboards either support Sky/Kaby Lake or Coffee Lake, but not both! So, that's your first decision.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1151


    If you want to buy new, I think the cheapest Coffee Lake CPU with ECC support is a Celeron G4900, for a list price of merely $42.

    https://ark.intel.com/products/12948...ache-3-10-GHz-
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117871
    Last edited by coder; 01-17-2019, 08:15 PM.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post
    Good ideas. It looks like most of the available processors with ECC support are non-G Xeon E or a F variant of the i3, both of which don't have graphics.
    Uh, all Xeons support ECC. Plenty of i3's with graphics, too. You just need to add the filter for FCLGA1151:

    https://ark.intel.com/Search/Feature...rted=FCLGA1151

    Dual core (but many have higher clock speeds):

    https://ark.intel.com/products/97455...ache-3-90-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/97458...ache-4-00-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/97484...ache-4-10-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/97527...ache-4-20-GHz-

    Quad core:

    https://ark.intel.com/products/12668...ache-3-60-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/12994...ache-3-70-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/12668...ache-4-00-GHz-


    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post
    I'm out of luck for now if I want a 6 core chip with graphics that supports ECC. Unless I go to a Xeon D, which brings a whole new set of problems with embedded CPUs that I'm trying to get away from (I'm moving up from a Atom C2xxx).
    What do you mean out of luck? You've no doubt seen these...

    https://ark.intel.com/products/13485...p-to-4-70-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/13486...p-to-4-70-GHz-
    https://ark.intel.com/products/13486...p-to-4-50-GHz-


    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post
    The i3-8350K is the best option if I don't want to wait: similar clock speed and graphics, but only 4 cores. A higher TDP, but you still get AVX2. On the up side, it is quite a bit cheaper (about half of the cost of a E-2146G).
    Google shopping has 5 hits for the E-2146G, although I agree that the i3-8350K is a tempting alternative. If you're going to use it for something like a fileserver, I doubt you'll miss the extra cores.

    I have a dual-core Haswell i3 in a SSD-based fileserver I'm upgrading to 10 Gigabit. Should be interesting.
    Last edited by coder; 01-17-2019, 10:14 PM.

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  • ChamPro
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    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post

    Good ideas. It looks like most of the available processors with ECC support are non-G Xeon E or a F variant of the i3, both of which don't have graphics.
    I'm out of luck for now if I want a 6 core chip with graphics that supports ECC. Unless I go to a Xeon D, which brings a whole new set of problems with embedded CPUs that I'm trying to get away from (I'm moving up from a Atom C2xxx).

    The i3-8350K is the best option if I don't want to wait: similar clock speed and graphics, but only 4 cores. A higher TDP, but you still get AVX2. On the up side, it is quite a bit cheaper (about half of the cost of a E-2146G).
    Another option would be buy an I3-8100 for now... currently $116 on NewEgg. And upgrade to the E-2146G when available. Though the benchmarks pitting the two against each other are a little sad.
    We take a look at the ultra-low cost Intel Core i3-8100 in our benchmarks and review. We see how this CPU stacks up to more costly server processors and see whether it is worth saving a few dollars with this intriguing solution

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  • ChamPro
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    Originally posted by coder View Post
    Here's a Xeon E-2124 that's in stock:

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16819117984

    I suggest you also consider i3 - especially now that they have 4 cores.

    https://ark.intel.com/products/12668...ache-4-00-GHz-

    Here's a list of all Intel CPUs with ECC-support, which you can further restrict by core count, socket type, etc.

    https://ark.intel.com/Search/Feature...ECCMemory=true

    Ryzen is also a promising option for home-servers, given its ECC-support. I will be looking at the 12 nm refresh of their APUs.
    Good ideas. It looks like most of the available processors with ECC support are non-G Xeon E or a F variant of the i3, both of which don't have graphics.
    I'm out of luck for now if I want a 6 core chip with graphics that supports ECC. Unless I go to a Xeon D, which brings a whole new set of problems with embedded CPUs that I'm trying to get away from (I'm moving up from a Atom C2xxx).

    The i3-8350K is the best option if I don't want to wait: similar clock speed and graphics, but only 4 cores. A higher TDP, but you still get AVX2. On the up side, it is quite a bit cheaper (about half of the cost of a E-2146G).

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by ChamPro View Post
    Michael, have you heard anything about the availability of this product line? It's fits very well as a step up from the Atom line (Denverton currently) for us home server people.
    Since it was released in June, I would expect to see parts available now, but even the systems from OEMs aren't quite purchasable (Lenovo, HP, and Dell have workstations with the E-2124G as a CPU).
    Here's a Xeon E-2124 that's in stock:

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16819117984

    I suggest you also consider i3 - especially now that they have 4 cores.

    https://ark.intel.com/products/12668...ache-4-00-GHz-

    Here's a list of all Intel CPUs with ECC-support, which you can further restrict by core count, socket type, etc.

    https://ark.intel.com/Search/Feature...ECCMemory=true

    Ryzen is also a promising option for home-servers, given its ECC-support. I will be looking at the 12 nm refresh of their APUs.
    Last edited by coder; 01-07-2019, 04:58 AM.

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  • ChamPro
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    Michael, have you heard anything about the availability of this product line? It's fits very well as a step up from the Atom line (Denverton currently) for us home server people.
    Since it was released in June, I would expect to see parts available now, but even the systems from OEMs aren't quite purchasable (Lenovo, HP, and Dell have workstations with the E-2124G as a CPU).

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by edwaleni View Post
    Reading some of the analysts across the spectrum and the consensus is this...
    You don't need any analysts, because this is exactly the same as the "E3"-series Xeons, before. As grok and others have said, these are just their mainstream desktop CPUs with vPRO and ECC support not disabled and an artificial dependency added on the new C246 motherboard chipset.

    Here's some non-lazy reporting, which includes a map of their old & new market segmentation (hint: same segments, different names):

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12199...e-xeon-e-entry

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