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  • phoronix
    started a topic ATI's New Drivers: Did The Paradise Come?

    ATI's New Drivers: Did The Paradise Come?

    Phoronix: ATI's New Drivers: Did The Paradise Come?

    It's been nearly seven months since I wrote my first article about ATI drivers and how they literally crippled my computer and my daily life. Last month, ATI had finally released their latest drivers which contains the new OpenGL component and AIGLX support. Was this release worth the amount of hype and did it solve everyone's problems? For me, simply, no. After seven months of waiting, updating, and struggling, things are not good for me, in every possible feature of the ATI Linux driver I use.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11424

  • macmus
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    gief new driver so we can start whining on new bugs

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  • pedepy
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    ive ran 8.42.3 a two seperate occasions on my mobility X1600 thing and this is what ive found:

    benchmarks are pretty much the same in either aiglx, xgl, compiz, no compiz, glxgears, from either 8.40 or 8.42. However visible performance is choppier in compiz under 8.42's AIGLX. But the worse problem is no doubt video playback, which is just unwatchable.

    It felt nice to run compiz without XGL for a change though; very nice !

    I think theyre on the right track.. Memory leaks and all that stuff are something to be worried about because it seems to stem from a lack of interest on the part of the developers, but aside from that you cant argue that its come a long way since two months.

    Look at it that way: How many people wouldve believed you back in August had you said you'd be running an AIGLX enabled fglrx driver before year's end?..

    I hope 8.43 is nothing more than bugfixes, if only to stop the crazy, bipolar, yoyo swing of high hopes and bitter disapoinments that all this AIGLX, fglrx 8.41 driver created in the first place. Theyre just drivers people and this one's only a month old!..

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  • macmus
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    the driver works on HD2600 with AIXGL.

    But the behaviour i can only describe as that, nothing more ..

    I am runing Gnome with compiz now and that is what i am experiencing atm:

    1. Flickering of glxgears during rotation of cube and it does stay in place (does not rotate during rotation process)
    2. Freaky flickering of movies.
    3. Enourmous CPU consumption during compiz effect (minimalizing, scaling, cube rotating)
    4. FPS drop down dramaticly during some of destop effect.
    5. Internet browsers are choking incredibly.
    6. Sometimes Gnome/KDE does start with black screen instead of login sreeen
    7. Random X crashes during video playback.

    For me it is just a joke not a driver...

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  • DarkFoss
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    Hi bridgman,
    Thank you for responding on these boards

    My hardware is an AMD 3700,MSI K8T Neo2-F v1 board flashed to bios 9.3
    Soundblaster Audigy 2 zs, 2 g of OZC timings set to spec. x800pro agp at 8x fast writes enabled in the bios.
    *edit agp aperture is set to 256 other lower setting don't seem to work as well*
    Last edited by DarkFoss; 11-17-2007, 03:14 PM.

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  • bridgman
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    DarkFoss, what hardware are you running on ? This doesn't *seem* to be hardware specific since the same hardware is showing leaks for some folks but not others, but not ruling it out yet. This does seem to be more config, distro or kernel specific as Alistair suggested.

    Thanks,
    JB

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  • Alexander He?
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    I can't see any memleaking on my system either. I ran glxgears for like 8 hours and the memory usage didn't change at all.

    I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 with kernel 2.6.22.

    Driver has been installed as described on wiki.cchtml.com and thinkwiki.org. Only difference is, that I compiled a hacked fglrx.ko as described by Kano and ambro814.

    Hardware is a FireGL V5250 in an IBM Thinkpad T60p.

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  • DarkFoss
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    Originally posted by Alistair View Post
    DarkFoss
    can you report a) kernel version b) install method used c) distro d) previous used fglrx version in the memleak thread?
    thanks
    Done Let me know if there is anything else I can add.

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  • yoshi314
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    [quote]We'd probably have had a fix either done or on the way for some of these problems had it been an open source driver.[/qupote]
    the binary nonsense will get us nowhere in linux. it causes more problems (esp with software compatibility) than it solves.

    i can clearly see it after a couple of months using opensource drivers only. that's reason enough for me to never go back to fglrx.

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  • Svartalf
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    Originally posted by Tillin9 View Post
    I wholly agree that AMD/ATI needs to get its act together. I complained every driver revision about artifacts in ivview, an open source OpenGL program used by many researchers on Linux/ Unix workstations. I'm 100% sure if the developers ran it, then looked at the code they could figure out what OpenGL feature is causing all the trouble rather easily.
    This implies that they've staffed the group appropriately and they have the manpower to do that check and fix things...

    Having said this, they're missing functionalities (as in API edges that ought to be supported in a modern OpenGL 2.X compliant driver...) in the Vista driver that they did ship- and they're just as missing in the Linux side. While the Windows version is relatively stable, it's missing all the same API edges we're beginning to find on the Linux driver- do YOU think they're staffed up enough on the Linux side?

    Not to mention 8.42 and higher have WORSE artifacting in this program than previous drivers. Also, with the new codebase I get a torn watermark in the corner. While performance may be better, I'd rather have old bugs squashed. Hint: with a stable and reliable driver, I can always just buy a faster card if performance is not good enough for my needs.
    Yeah, that's kind of my take on things. It's my gut level feeling that the Vista/XP driver might be a house of cards like the Linux driver seems to be- it's just that the cards aren't toppling on them yet.

    I'm probably not the only one who wants this, but if anyone from AMD/ATI is reading, please, pretty please release the R300/R400 3D specs to the DRI team. The Open Source driver for R300 cards is okay and with specs I'm sure they could get it perfect. I actually got Compiz working with the DRI driver, fglrx I just got a big white screen. Yes performance in many areas is slower and its not quite feature complete yet, but a lot of the really nasty fglrx bugs aren't there, and 95% of 3D works.
    Heh... I wish they would just do that, then. It'd be a win for them and I would plug their stuff again. Even if we can't drive it QUITE as fast as they can or NVidia could with theirs, it'll be a vast improvement as it won't be this thorn in the side like the current drivers are. We'd probably have had a fix either done or on the way for some of these problems had it been an open source driver.

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