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  • #51
    From here it seems pretty much official. It is a page about the 12.6 beta driver, telling that the monthly releases are gone and also it suggests (in some way) that the only supported hardware will be 5000 series and onwards.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
      Nothing odd about that. AMD struggles to be competitive at all with Nvidia in the discrete graphics space (they're not doing so hot now that Kepler is again the performance king, but HD5000 was a good generation) and they are absolutely obliterated on the desktop CPU front. They have to be losing lots of money, which might be why they are cheapening their graphics driver support.

      Seriously though; Intel has been into the FOSS movement as a commercial supporter thereof for a decade or more. ATI tepidly stepped in with a small team of less than 10 people about 5 years ago. Intel supports ALL of their hardware on Linux with very few exceptions (e.g. when they license someone else's IP and that someone won't let them share any details in open code, like PowerlessVR Screwageneration Technologies). They invest heavily in development for the Linux kernel and userspace tools like powertop.

      If you ever had any doubt about the true king of FOSS support, erase that doubt now. Intel is the hardware support king of FOSS.

      I dual boot. I keep my monitors plugged into the Z77 motherboard. My Ivy Bridge 3770K plus the LucidLogix Virtu MVP chip lets me use my Radeon HD7970 for performance gaming without moving my monitor cables, on Windows. On Linux I just reboot and it uses the Ivy Bridge graphics. Performance is truly stellar (for Linux). Blows away anything anyone else has ever done with Mesa, in the entire history of Mesa. Absolutely obliterates it. r600g and nouveau don't even come remotely close.


      Intel the biggest abuser of their monopoly powers they make Microsoft look like angels, no thanks.

      When Intel opens ICC, makes graphics chips that display correct images and textures, when Intel quits paying off sites to make their chips look better in benchmarks then they really are, when Intel quits being being anti-consumer then we can talk.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
        Difference is, on Linux AMD gives us the tools to fix drivers ourselves.
        And thus absolves them of the responsibility of supporting their products on Linux.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by johnc View Post
          And thus absolves them of the responsibility of supporting their products on Linux.
          ???

          Last time I checked, Bridgman was an AMD employee, who is writing code for the linux platform.

          My R600 performs much better now than it did a year ago. So somebody is doing something.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing View Post
            Last time I checked, Bridgman was an AMD employee...
            ...as are a number of other developers at AMD who are actually working on the code (rather than my pointy-haired boss contributions )
            Last edited by bridgman; 05-31-2012, 07:59 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
              Nothing odd about that. AMD struggles to be competitive at all with Nvidia in the discrete graphics space (they're not doing so hot now that Kepler is again the performance king, but HD5000 was a good generation) and they are absolutely obliterated on the desktop CPU front. They have to be losing lots of money, which might be why they are cheapening their graphics driver support.
              AMD graphics and CPU divisions were both profitable last year. However, the company as a whole is still taking huge writeoffs on Global Foundries which push it into the red.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                ...as are a number of other developers at AMD who are actually working on the code (rather than my pointy-haired boss contributions )
                I thought your job is keeping the Phoronix crowd calm.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by entropy View Post
                  I thought your job is keeping the Phoronix crowd calm.
                  Especially now that Michael has finally lost it.

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                  • #59
                    4200 here

                    Originally posted by Tiger_Coder View Post
                    I guess I am ok with my integrated HD 4250 until Ubuntu 12.10 comes. But then I am f*cked. I don't have enough money to bye a new card(I bought the new PC just last year) nor I would like to stay with old Ubuntu release. And OSS still not a option for me as integrated HD 4250 is already low performing graphics card, my Arch installation with OSS drivers don't support playing DOOM3, UT2004 or games with wine(I am not hardcore gamer but I play some).

                    Worst is with Catalyst 12.4 Windows driver is also broken in 7 with OpenGL games on my config. Looks like its a no game situation
                    Even worse is hdmi out on OSS. I made the mistake years ago purchasing a 9000. I thought it would be an upgrade over my TNT2 Ultra.
                    The 9800 was worse. Now I got a 4200 built in. Soon as I can figure out the numbers game of Nvidia I'm going with a GTX if I can afford one.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by not.sure View Post
                      Especially now that Michael has finally lost it.
                      AMD got a BAD disillusion even on the windows side there every month a new driver and we don't care about new game releases until the next driver comes on a regular basic way to go was just a disaster for games like: Diablo3 on windows.
                      with a simple pipeline every 3 month a stable release and a puplic alpfa and a puplic beta and hotfix drivers for games like diablo 3 games like diablo 3 can deal with it much more easily
                      the problem with diablo3 was somthing like this catalyst have a bug and the game developers write a workarround but the next driver released on amd side fix this bug and the workaround "fail" because of this diablo3 worked with the catalyst 12.3 but not with the catalyst 12.4 but most people downloading the driver from there website only get 12.4 and they get a lot of pain with diablo3 because they trusted amd that 12.4 is the best driver for there card. people without any clue installed the driver from CD 12.3 and played diablo3 and wondering why so many people can't play diablo3...

                      in the future model diablo3 would know what driver version is in the market on release date.

                      anyway with the opensource driver companys like Valve and Blizzard can pay people to fix the driver problems for there games thats the best of all ways.
                      Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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