Talos II POWER9 Workstation With OpenBMC, PCI-E 4.0 Up For Pre-Ordering

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  • Dopefish
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 33

    #41
    The mainboard is supposed to be an EATX form factor.

    They wanted to start off with 4 core CPUs for cost reasons... But the board can be upgraded with top end models at a later date, if desired.

    The power supply should be dual voltage.

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    • phoron
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 201

      #42
      Originally posted by Qaridarium
      does the talosII mainboard use DDR 4 unbuffered ECC ram or DDR4 registered ECC ram?
      I don't know, But I read "Vital data integrity is ensured through registered DIMM interfaces and ECC support." so I guess registered.

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      • no1_in_particular
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2017
        • 2

        #43
        4 core "workstation" LOL LMAO ROFL LOL LMAO ROFL LOL LMAO ROFL .....

        my cell phone has 8 cores. I bought a complete xbox one (8 core AMD jaguar cpus) 2 year ago for 300 canadian, and that came with free bundle of rise of the tomb raider (70 dollar game) also in the package was, an xbox one controller, 8 gigs ram, psu, 320 GB hard drive, powerful GPU, wifi, an OS .....)

        "They wanted to start off with 4 core CPUs for cost reasons... "
        yes and what a fine job they have done at keeping costs down. it only costs 6000 usd afterall.

        dont get me wrong i am not intel fanboy, i would love to be liberated from x86, but this is gotta be a joke.
        pay blood money, migrate a shit ton of software to a new ISA, so what? be liberated from intel and enslaved by IBM.

        if it was a migrating to ARM or RISC-V at least you could say, there is a lot of issues right now but maybe hopefully one day it will pay off



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        • CrystalGamma
          Senior Member
          • May 2014
          • 515

          #44
          Originally posted by Dopefish View Post
          The mainboard is supposed to be an EATX form factor.

          They wanted to start off with 4 core CPUs for cost reasons... But the board can be upgraded with top end models at a later date, if desired.

          The power supply should be dual voltage.
          Their limited offer on CPUs is, so they told me, because of yield/availability problems (Their plan is to offer all the way up to 24-core scale-out when possible). They even told me you will be able to change the CPU in your order for an equivalent upcharge, if a bigger CPU becomes available before they ship your board, so you won't even have to buy an “entry-level” CPU that you would have to replace immediately anyway.

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          • WolfpackN64
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2017
            • 173

            #45
            Originally posted by no1_in_particular View Post
            4 core "workstation" LOL LMAO ROFL LOL LMAO ROFL LOL LMAO ROFL .....

            my cell phone has 8 cores. I bought a complete xbox one (8 core AMD jaguar cpus) 2 year ago for 300 canadian, and that came with free bundle of rise of the tomb raider (70 dollar game) also in the package was, an xbox one controller, 8 gigs ram, psu, 320 GB hard drive, powerful GPU, wifi, an OS .....)
            You do know that these POWER cores are a LOT more powerful then the puny ARM and embedded x86 Jaguar cores in your cellphone and Xbox respectively? Furthermore, these cores each have 4 or 8 threads (depending on if the core is SMT4 or SMT8). That's 16 or 32 threads that will clobber your poor Xbox One.

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            • curaga
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 5924

              #46
              @torsionbar28: My point being, I'm exactly the target group in everything but the price.

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              • caseyac
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2017
                • 2

                #47
                Originally posted by WolfpackN64 View Post

                You do know that these POWER cores are a LOT more powerful then the puny ARM and embedded x86 Jaguar cores in your cellphone and Xbox respectively? Furthermore, these cores each have 4 or 8 threads (depending on if the core is SMT4 or SMT8). That's 16 or 32 threads that will clobber your poor Xbox One.
                Raptor CS specified SMT4

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                • caseyac
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 2

                  #48
                  Originally posted by no1_in_particular View Post
                  4 core "workstation" LOL LMAO ROFL LOL LMAO ROFL LOL LMAO ROFL .....

                  my cell phone has 8 cores. I bought a complete xbox one (8 core AMD jaguar cpus) 2 year ago for 300 canadian, and that came with free bundle of rise of the tomb raider (70 dollar game) also in the package was, an xbox one controller, 8 gigs ram, psu, 320 GB hard drive, powerful GPU, wifi, an OS .....)
                  LOL, indeed. The comparison you're trying to make is absurd. A single Power9 core could dance in circles around your 8-core ARM cell phone and probably an 8-core Jaguar as well. The Jaguar CPU is a low-cost/value CPU; it has a low clock speed and is not multi-threaded.

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                  • no1_in_particular
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 2

                    #49
                    Originally posted by WolfpackN64 View Post

                    You do know that these POWER cores are a LOT more powerful then the puny ARM and embedded x86 Jaguar cores in your cellphone and Xbox respectively? Furthermore, these cores each have 4 or 8 threads (depending on if the core is SMT4 or SMT8). That's 16 or 32 threads that will clobber your poor Xbox One.
                    if you thought i was saying, cell phone or xbox cpu from several years ago is better than POWER9, you simply didnt read my post.

                    "these cores each have 4 or 8 threads ...."
                    yes lets pretend these cores do magic that no1 else has ever heard of or seen. throw in a couple of buzz words like SMT4 or SMT8 and if that doesnt sell i dont know what does.

                    by the time you have 8 threads on a POWER9 cpu, each thread is down to a single instruction decoder, and at that point that thread's performance will be several folds lower than the AMD jaguar IPC for same clock

                    4 core workstation is still a joke.

                    I dont believe it will compile linux any better than 4x less time, than AMD jaguar 8 core from 3 years ago, but the price is like 30 folds higher, nevermind, 8 core AMD CPUs from this year

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                    • GI_Jack
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 320

                      #50
                      For what it is, this is very much underpriced.

                      You are getting mini-computer hardware, far bellow minicomputer price. This is also not really a consumer grade product.

                      This is not a consumer gaming rig, but a high performance IBM chip. I do wonder how this will stack up against the latest SPARC chips.

                      The other big problem, is even though it is worth the price tag, I cannot think of a single use case for this professionally.

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