AMD Releases Optimizing C/C++ Compiler For Ryzen

[bridgman]

Seemed like you guys were just taking clang, adding patches, and holding Zen optimization hostage in a proprietary compiler.
Good to know that's not what it is.

This is what I don't get... Michael has already published articles about us pushing Ryzen compiler work upstream into llvm/clang and gcc, so it's not at all clear to me how a "proprietary compiler" rumor could even have started.

[torsionbar28]

And who on earth should enable a specific architecture flag despite Gentoo users? All the software out there is compiled more generically ...

You may not be aware, but compiler optimizations are not only for hobbyists. Anyone in the HPC world is going to compile their app for the specific model and generation of CPU in the cluster. If the gains are significant enough, the major server OS's (think RHEL and SLES) would likely adopt them as well for general purpose computing.

[pal666]

Because it sure looks like you took clang, made some Ryzen optimizations, and are now trying to make your own icc/icl.

While technically legal, it's a shitty thing to do

while you don't like it, it is what clang was made for. and what apple does with it

[pal666]

Why would marketing claim it is an "AMD compiler" if it's just upstream llvm

because it is not yet upstream. why would you ask stupid questions?

[pal666]

And who on earth should enable a specific architecture flag despite Gentoo users?

you will install vendor compiler, but will not change its flags? what is your problem? btw, they could make that flag default in their compiler

[dungeon]

Huh ? The compiler teams have been submitting Ryzen support upstream into LLVM for quite a while now.

This is just a binary release with the standard binary EULA as far as I know.

Why would we try to push a binary upstream ?

You are pushing something and asking me as somehow I should imagine how me pushing something You can defend some things, but stop defending *any* fart AMD release just because it is yours and you like how it smells... i can't define better what openmind is

Believe it or not, here LLVM is used only for mesa and your mesa dri driver, these are all users here... so you supporting and pushing dilemmas all around and then asking why people are in dilemma without realising how people are not in dilemma in the first place

[bridgman]

You are pushing something and asking me as somehow I should imagine how me pushing something You can defend some things, but stop defending *any* fart AMD release just because it is yours and you like how it smells... i can't define better what openmind is

OK, so when people say things that are factually incorrect I should just "keep an open mind" and go along with it ? Yuck.

Believe it or not, here LLVM is used only for mesa and your mesa dri driver, these are all users here... so you supporting and pushing dilemmas all around and then asking why people are in dilemma without realising how people are not in dilemma in the first place

You people need to open your minds

We use llvm in the ROCM HCC compiler and in OpenCL as well... in fact we were using it in OpenCL well before Tom started using it in Mesa.

[dungeon]

You people need to open your minds

Lets me open yours Here is the author of Open Source Definition:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-deve.../msg01641.html

Openminded, and here is again author of Open Source Defnition recently on North Korea border:





Picture in case someone does not understand words. Openminded again and here is author of Open Source Definition again recently where he switched to Devuan:

I installed Devuan on a laptop and will probably expand it to my other systems over time.

https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/...ease-candidate

Openminded again... so that is the opensource and openmind in practice

And you, you say it all with your AOCC EULA

We use llvm in the ROCM HCC compiler and in OpenCL as well... in fact we were using it in OpenCL well before Tom started using it in Mesa.

Who in the bloody hell care what AMD uses internally, in fact AMD probably use Visual Studio way more than anything else... again who cares

[ssokolow]

Believe it or not, here LLVM is used only for mesa and your mesa dri driver, these are all users here

Funny. I was sure I saw people getting a hard-on for Rust in here too.

[Space Beer]

I don't get it? AMD (bridgman) said/confirmed they are implementing (Ryzen optimized) improvements into clang and gcc

This is what I don't get... Michael has already published articles about us pushing Ryzen compiler work upstream into llvm/clang and gcc, so it's not at all clear to me how a "proprietary compiler" rumor could even have started.

And someone thinks they will not do that, they'll keep it closed and won't add it to clang and/or gcc?