I think this reviewer is the best one i watched out there one of the normal ones, non biased, convincing, suggestive, reasonable... only maybe like to talk a bit too much, but OK
All considering really R7 1700 is the best value, that is what i think too
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Originally posted by bakgwailo View PostApparently AMD has suggested to disable SMT for gaming benchmarks - seems to have made a marked difference for some games on the Windows benchmarks I have seen. It would also be cool to see how it compares to the FX-8370 like the previous article
So what could be happing with Ryzen is that an application/game asks for two threads and those go to one core or four threads which only go to two core, eight threads to four cores. That could account for a factor of 2 difference with Intel.
OpenMP by default (at least on all the systems I have tested it on) will use all logical processors. So on Ryzen it would use 16 threads. That could explain why OpenMP based rendering applications perform so well. If you use the maximum threads (16) then there is no problem with topology but if you use less than 16 threads the topology can have a big effect on performance.
Edit: I just checked cpuinfo and I think it's compact for Ryzen but scattered for Intel
On my Skylake 4C/8HT system with Ubuntu 16.10
grep "core id" /proc/cpuinfo returns
core id : 0
core id : 1
core id : 2
core id : 3
core id : 0
core id : 1
core id : 2
core id : 3
But the same command with the 1800X returns
http://openbenchmarking.org/system/1...01800X/cpuinfo
core id : 0
core id : 0
core id : 1
core id : 1
core id : 2
core id : 2
core id : 3
core id : 3
core id : 4
core id : 4
core id : 5
core id : 5
core id : 6
core id : 6
core id : 7
core id : 7Last edited by zboson; 03 March 2017, 08:31 AM.
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Originally posted by Filiprino View PostOnce BIOSes have the possibility dto disable cores, I'd like to see tests with 4 cores disabled.
TDP == Thermal Design Power. That's the heat the processor can emit. But the actual power consumption is higher.
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Originally posted by Filiprino View PostOnce BIOSes have the possibility dto disable cores, I'd like to see tests with 4 cores disabled.
Single stock would still have same perf (it would be even easier to be clocked more), only you would just lose half threaded perf.Last edited by dungeon; 03 March 2017, 08:31 AM.
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The Vulkan results were very surprising, you'd have thought that having the load spread across all the cores would have boosted speeds. What I'm guessing has happened is the load was so little over each core, the CPU has been down clocked
Would be great if these tests could be repeated using the Performance governor
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Originally posted by sarfarazahmad View Posttomshardware is always thorough !
But somewhat that also means to me how even better cooling solution than Max is needed if someone wanna OC it more than 3.8 and to be total safe +200Mhz made +30W in Luxrender Time there what is already at WMax rating... it is not surprising overclocking failing for some people
But OK OC is not for everybody, one need to know and test what he is doing
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Before you guys judge acpi-cpufreq's quality, please notice that Ryzen also has problems with Windows, where the Performance power preset doesn't make a difference for the Intel CPUs but results in a boost of uo to 10% for the Ryzen CPUs (compared to Balanced).
There's some bugs AMD has to fix, it seems.
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My conclusions from watching and reading reviews an benchmarks - for pure gaming i7-7700k is still king of the hill. But for users who needs multithreading and dream processor was i7-6900k Ryzen 7 lineup is very tempting and appealing. Especially because it costs half of 6900k and has lower TDP.
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Michaels test sounds too negative to me.
One could also look at the min-fps (where provided) and hail Ryzen for significantly improving that *important* number.
Showing that Ryzen delivers 200fps instead of 300fps in cpu bound situations...
There was a reddit Q&A where even AMD Lisa commented on the 1080p gaming performance.
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