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Originally posted by tuke81 View PostYeah, 450W psu for 25W soc is like a shooting fly with a tank(it could run easily dozen of them). There is no really good low power psus out there, maybe seasonic tfx psus like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151113 , same series has 250W model too. I would like to see some 100W-150w gold/platinium rated sfx/tfx psu, for this kind of stuff(I'm not so keen on picopsus).
My thinking is that 24VDC would be ideal as it works well with industrial and commercial vehicle systems. Considering the capabilities of modem power supply topologies, the 24 VDC could be nominal support a wide voltage input range. This would immediately eliminate the power supply problem for the low power boards as 24 VDC power supplies are extremely common. You can get them as wall warts, bench top, panel mount, chassis mount, open frame and a host of other styles in power ranges of a few watts to thousands of watts.
Like the floppy, the CD drive and a bunch of other legacy hardware it is time for the industry to set a new standard for low power computers.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostYeah, but then you have the problem of finding a TFX case, so unless you have one of those Dell or HP buisness mini cases you are SOL unless you don't mind cutting a hole in the side of a standard case to allow you to plug it in.
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Originally posted by mmstick View PostCompanies like Corsair make both power supplies and computer cases. If they really wanted to, they could easily release a new array of low watt power supplies and cases made to fit them at the same time. Then, you wouldn't have an argument to make in regards to cases.
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Originally posted by tuke81 View PostYeah, 450W psu for 25W soc is like a shooting fly with a tank(it could run easily dozen of them). There is no really good low power psus out there, maybe seasonic tfx psus like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151113 , same series has 250W model too. I would like to see some 100W-150w gold/platinium rated sfx/tfx psu, for this kind of stuff(I'm not so keen on picopsus).
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Originally posted by wizard69 View PostWith all of this new low power hardware arriving the industry really needs a new power supply standard. Frankly it is hard to even justify the current bundle of wires approach to PC power supplies. The first thing to consider is a a single voltage input for the entire board with maybe a stand by line for waking up from low power modes. This could easily be handled by a four pin connector.
My thinking is that 24VDC would be ideal as it works well with industrial and commercial vehicle systems. Considering the capabilities of modem power supply topologies, the 24 VDC could be nominal support a wide voltage input range. This would immediately eliminate the power supply problem for the low power boards as 24 VDC power supplies are extremely common. You can get them as wall warts, bench top, panel mount, chassis mount, open frame and a host of other styles in power ranges of a few watts to thousands of watts.
Like the floppy, the CD drive and a bunch of other legacy hardware it is time for the industry to set a new standard for low power computers.
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Originally posted by JS987 View PostThere are also thin mini itx motherboards which support laptop adapters which can reach 90% efficiency.
All Solid Capacitor design; Supports AMD Socket AM1 Athlon/Sempron APU; Supports DDR3 1600 memory, 2 DIMM, Max. 32GB; 1 PCIe 2.0 x16, 1 mini-PCIe; Integrated AMD Radeon™ R3 Series Graphics in A-series / E-series APU; Multi Graphics Output Options : D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort 1.2; 4 USB 3.1 Gen1 (2 Front, 2 Rear), 6 USB 2.0 (4 Front, 2 Rear), 4 SATA3; Two Power Input Options : 1 DC-In Jack, 1 24 pin ATX Power Connector; Realtek Gigabit LAN; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec); Supports ASRock Full Spike Protection, A-Tuning, FAN-Tastic Tuning, UEFI Tech Service, APP Shop, USB Key
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Originally posted by przemoli View PostBut You can forget about reproductability.
Cause of implementation differences, cause of default settings differences, cause of implementation perf. differences. Etc.
Encoding perf obviously doesn't affect the generated file. If you encode from the same source, using the same x264 version, using the same settings, it's going to be comparable and reproducible if not bit-identical.
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Any news on those wonky integer performance numbers? I have an E-450 running at 1.65 GHz and theoretically, the Athlon 5350 should be able to outperform it by a factor of 3-ish if perfect scaling is assumed (+20% IPC per core * 2x cores * 2.05 GHz /1.65 GHz = 1.2 * 2 * 1.2424... =~ 3). The single threaded theoretical performance gain alone should reach +50% fer chrissakes!
@Michael:
Would you be open to running both the E-350 and the Athlon 5350 using the performance governor to rule out any CPU frequency issues? Assuming the same disk I/O and RAM subsystem (preferably the 240GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD and the 4GB DDR3-1600 MHz block), I would imagine that the Athlon would wipe the floor with the E-350 on e.g. the Linux kernel benchmark run tbh. If it doesn't, well...
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Originally posted by mmstick View PostCompanies like Corsair make both power supplies and computer cases. If they really wanted to, they could easily release a new array of low watt power supplies and cases made to fit them at the same time. Then, you wouldn't have an argument to make in regards to cases.
That and like mobos, not every case suits every usage type. What if I want a small but spacious file server? I could get n ITX board with 12x SATA ports like the ASRock C2750D4I in a case like the Fractal Node 304, a case you could easily fill with 12x 2.5" drives or 6x 3.5".
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