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I can't say that I have every sound card that exists. I tend to stick with what I know works well. I love cmedia cards because there Alsa drivers are awesome. PA on the other hand hates them. It has nothing to do with the card or the drivers. They work perfectly. It is -only- when PA is forced on me that I get pops and skips and audio delay. Audio delay from my sound card out to my reciever can be multiple seconds when PA is used. With just Alsa the same config works perfectly.
I can't talk for everyone, I can only talk for my own experience, which is fairly extensive, but not ultimately extensive.
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Originally posted by Dukenukemx View PostI have 12.04 on my PowerPC G4 laptop, and it's faster then Mac OSX and more capable. The major problem though is that it requires a lot of effort to get it working. Sound, video, and even being able to play YouTube videos. Back in 10.04 I could use compiz for nice effects for the desktop, but doesn't work in 12.04, even though I did get OpenGL acceleration working... painfully.
how about a lil guide my friend?
my attempt to get 12.10 to work on a g4
fuckin waste of time
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostOK so "doesn't" should be replaced with "extremely rarely and only on a few pointless projects that don't mean jack shit"
Also, that is just one example that I knew off the top of my head. It doesn't mean there aren't other examples, but I'm not about to spend the rest of my afternoon spoon-feeding you git commits from Canonical employees...
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostThe bottom line is, if PA is using the Alsa interface incorrectly then it is a problem PA. This "pass the buck" crap needs to stop. Alsa works just perfectly without PA. It's PA that doesnt work. It's for these reasons that PA should simply be forced to die. Every distro should boycott it. I can almost promise that if they did a new sound server would be implemented by someone somewhere. As the status quo is PA is doing nothing but hurting.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostThe idealist in me wants to see PowerPC supported, so you can run Linux on any platform and so there can be alternatives to x86.
The realist in me understands why they they drop PowerPC support. Too little market share, and no momentum behind it.
In reality Ubuntu dropped ppc support years ago, i think the images were still being built as a sort of unsupported community effort.
In short the headline is a lie, Ubuntu dropped PPC long ago.
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Originally posted by frign View PostI don't consider Ubuntu a GNU/Linux-distribution anymore, because they don't contribute to upstream.
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Contributing to upstream is not the problem - yes, strictly speaking, technically, Ubuntu does contribute to upstream projects.
The problem, as I see it, is more like that Ubuntu does not collaborate with the rest of the Linux ecosystem. They do needless and divisive forks, cause fragmentation (Mir), and do many things to make themselves separate and incompatible with the rest of the desktop Linux systems.
Ubuntu/Canonical has this sort of attitude problem. You only need to read Shuttleworth's posts to see it. It's always "we want to be leaders in the Linux world and others should follow us". That's just wrong. Leadership isn't something you just get by doing things your way, leadership is earned. They seem to think they can deviate from the rest of the Linux community however much they want, and the others will come around eventually and do things their way. But it seems like that's not happening, because people don't want to be dependent on Canonical, they don't want to give that amount of power to Canonical.
Now, whether it's still right to call Ubuntu a GNU/Linux distribution, is a question I don't really care about. Technically, it is GNU/Linux, since it provides the GNU userland and Linux kernel. But it's going further and further away from what is commonly understood to be a "desktop Linux" distribution.
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Originally posted by DanL View PostOne example was sufficient to disprove the "Ubuntu does not contribute anything upstream" statement, so yes, I'm serious. (Are you serious or do you not understand basic logic?)
I am confident that you wont come up with any numbers whatsoever because it will show the truth and you dont want that.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostIt is -only- when PA is forced on me that I get pops and skips and audio delay.
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