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  • #11
    Originally posted by devius View Post
    So you're free to work on your game instead of working on "something that affects a larger userbase", but these guys can't work on the m68k port of debian? How come?
    It's like asking me to stop playing chess because it's only fun for me and doesn't contribute anything to *his* life.

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    • #12
      To all the Naysayers. Screw you. I mean that in a nice way. A 68060 based system with a Mediator and Radeon card should be able to run Debian quite nicely.

      It's nice to see m68k in Sid now. Interesting to see the architectures that Wheezy supports versus what is in Sid.

      Sid;
      alpha amd64 armel armhf hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sh4 sparc sparc64

      Wheezy;
      amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc

      Squeeze;
      amd64 armel i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc

      As you can see, Wheezy is adding 'armhf' and 's390x' to it from Squeeze, though both of them are just variations on other architectures (armel with hard floating points.) And whatever S390x is. Sid supports quite a few more. Very nice.

      m68k processors are quite nice, and putting support back for it is more than just 'old hardware'. Think of the embedded space where the Coldfire processors are still used.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by kokoko3k View Post
        @BO$$
        The problem with posts like yours..
        No management, no optimal allocation of resources, so you end up with useless posts like this one. Waste of fucking time dude. Get a life. Post something that people want.
        Ahah, excellent

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        • #14
          I will burn in hell for that...

          ...two days ago I moved my Amigas to attic, which really hurt me badly. And now reading news like that one I know how bad that decision was.

          People who are still working on that stuff are my personal heroes :]
          Great work, keep going with that! :]

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          • #15
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            My game has the purpose of affecting a large userbase. Now of course, there is no guarantee. But it has the potential. While what he does only has the ability to affect a small userbase. What he does cannot become mainstream. If it were a corporation, he wouldn't be working on that since it cannot bring profits. While my game has the potential to bring profits since it's not free. There is a difference.
            With such a reasonning wtf are you doing on a Linux site? You should be using Windows. Also, life is not about financial profit.
            No need to answer me.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
              The problem with open source software. No management, no optimal allocation of resources, so you end up with useless projects like this one. Waste of fucking time dude. Get a job. Build something that people want.
              At least there is one person who really wants it. The same cannot be said about all well resourced and manged projects.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                My game has the purpose of affecting a large userbase. Now of course, there is no guarantee. But it has the potential. While what he does only has the ability to affect a small userbase. What he does cannot become mainstream. If it were a corporation, he wouldn't be working on that since it cannot bring profits. While my game has the potential to bring profits since it's not free. There is a difference.
                People are perfectly entitled to have inane and pointless hobbies, such as golf, if they so like. Just because you like to imagine that your little game might in the future bring in some money does not make you morally superior.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Camelek View Post
                  ...two days ago I moved my Amigas to attic, which really hurt me badly. And now reading news like that one I know how bad that decision was.

                  People who are still working on that stuff are my personal heroes :]
                  Great work, keep going with that! :]
                  So sad, don't suppose you'd like to part with them?

                  I need to fix my A4000D so that it doesn't lock up in non-AGA video modes, then I'd end up using it a lot more. But for now, it runs games awesomely.

                  Every now and then you have to fire up the Oldies, it makes you appreciate the ingenuity of the few brave people who did more pioneering of the video game industry. 90% of all the crap they make now are rubbish. It's turned into Hollywood, where they mostly don't have any originality and end up just doing remakes that somehow the younger generation like...

                  I agree with them being heroes. There is indeed a need for it to be working. As I said in an earlier post, the Freescale processor is still being made, and there are various devices that use the m68k architecture.

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                  • #19
                    The project is not pointless as many on this thread think. The M86k architecture is very similar to newer processor used in embedded system. Since Linux is widely used in embedded system, porting debian to m86k architecture make sense. The author of this article should have it. See wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_68000_family

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                      Yet linux was next to useless for most people until canonical came and focused on making it usable. You can't say that linux naturally evolves toward usability cause it doesn't and didn't for many years. In fact, a corporation that runs for profit came and made it usable. So people that waste their time doing ports of debian to amiga usually end up either broke, or working for a corporation that tells them what to do. And that corporation listens to customers. And what customers say? Make linux usable and people will use it! So no matter how hard you try you can't escape the cycle, you need to do something useful to other people. Not only just to you.
                      Now we know you're just trolling. Canonical making Linux 'Usable'? Have you tried Unity? The fact of the matter is, Canonical doesn't do much themselves, with the exception of Unity, and Unity is by all accounts crap.

                      Ubuntu lost sight of their main goal when they decided to go so far away from their base of Debian. Their main goal was an up to date Debian with the latest Gnome every 6 months. Then because they judged 3.0 crappy, they decided to go in another direction, which is actually more of a waste of time. At least Gnome had a valid reason for being created when KDE was already out there. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

                      But did you also take into account that the port to m68k architecture makes things more stable and better code because it has to be compilable across multiple architectures? Yeah, that's a waste too.

                      Besides, you keep focusing on "Ported to Amiga." when it's actually a port for m68k, which means anything that uses the m68k platform can utilize Debian.

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldfire

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Coldfire_Project

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