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  • Well you see how inefficiant amd cpus are. the i7-3770S cpu has got a turbo speed of 3900 (1 core used) and that test is using mainly 1 core (rest is for other parallel tasks). You can easyly see that intel cpus have got more than 30% advantage at the same clock speed. I could oc my cpu, but usually it is fast enough. Asus likes to fix all turbo modes to the same max level (39 with that cpu), which is a tiny bit faster of course. This setting is somehow autoselected as soon as the ram speed is selected manually.

    And do you really think that this MIPS Loongson cpu will have got a similar speed/core?

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    • Originally posted by Kano View Post
      Well you see how inefficiant amd cpus are. the i7-3770S cpu has got a turbo speed of 3900 (1 core used) and that test is using mainly 1 core (rest is for other parallel tasks). You can easyly see that intel cpus have got more than 30% advantage at the same clock speed. I could oc my cpu, but usually it is fast enough. Asus likes to fix all turbo modes to the same max level (39 with that cpu), which is a tiny bit faster of course. This setting is somehow autoselected as soon as the ram speed is selected manually.
      I think different than you for me there are only 2 valid numbers to rate a CPU.
      First of all the over-clock-tweak-speed-up-factor my pc do have 280% speed to the "Base"
      And the Second is the Speed per EURO rate.
      And I'm 100% sure my CPU beat your CPU in both numbers and this is the only valid comparison!
      And only 30% advantage at the same clock speed in 2 years is really poor !
      Its a ridiculous speed-up!

      Originally posted by Kano View Post
      And do you really think that this MIPS Loongson cpu will have got a similar speed/core?
      You should have noticed that I just don't care about single-core speed.
      Because I know you can speed up single-core tasks with multi-core optimizations.
      I will buy a dual-socket Loongson3C CPU system and I'm sure that this 32core system will beat my system right now completely!
      Remember why I think in this way: Even if I only use Firefox to surf in the Internet i use 60 open windows this means 2 windows per core.
      For other people who only use 1-2 Firefox windows to surf in the web a dual-core or quad-core CPU is much better for the same task even if you use ALL multi core-speed-up tricks on the planet.
      And no this does not mean that a single-core is better for single-thread applications in my point of view you need at minimum a dual-core even if you only use single-core applications.

      I can accept a dual-core emulation of a quad-core CPU but i can not accept a single-core emulation of a quad-core even for single-core tasks.
      Some people understand this point and some others do not understand it. but in the end you get a quad-core loongson CPU and not a single-core and then the hard reality will hit these naive people.

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      • Well i guess you save and restore your tabs. What you mentioned is only valid for firefox up to 12, because with 13 it changed:



        "Restored background tabs are not loaded by default for faster startup"

        You gain absolutely nothing with more cores anymore for your way of webbrowsing. Only for newly opened ones and those are usually not rendered in parallel all the time. Also you dont have got flash for mips, well in the future you will have to use chrome to get flash, but a few years there will be flash 11.2 for ff as well.

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        • Originally posted by Kano View Post
          Well i guess you save and restore your tabs. What you mentioned is only valid for firefox up to 12, because with 13 it changed:



          "Restored background tabs are not loaded by default for faster startup"

          You gain absolutely nothing with more cores anymore for your way of webbrowsing. Only for newly opened ones and those are usually not rendered in parallel all the time. Also you dont have got flash for mips, well in the future you will have to use chrome to get flash, but a few years there will be flash 11.2 for ff as well.
          hi thank you for your information i call this a bug can i turn of this option ?
          is this bug also in the google chrome browser ?
          Also this was just a example I use more software than only a web browser.
          this means I'm sure i can use 32 cores

          " Also you dont have got flash for mips"
          who cares? you can use a x86 emulation to run flash.

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          • Originally posted by Kano View Post
            Usually Pentium G860 are faster than your cpu in that test. And whats your cpu? Btw you paid 50? more than i did
            Actually, even Pentium G840 is faster. Just tried this on my system and got 0:54.61. Not bad considering it's 1GHz slower than that B50 and probably uses 120W less to do the same job.

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            • Originally posted by maldorordiscord View Post
              what arguments? you have no arguments.
              So now you try to ignore my previous posts. Of course you do.

              Sorry, Q, but you lose.

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              • Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                So now you try to ignore my previous posts. Of course you do.

                Sorry, Q, but you lose.
                There were no arguments without argument against it and the point is you stop bringing new arguments.
                In a strict rhetoric rule-set you lost.

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                • Originally posted by devius View Post
                  Actually, even Pentium G840 is faster. Just tried this on my system and got 0:54.61. Not bad considering it's 1GHz slower than that B50 and probably uses 120W less to do the same job.
                  good result for a 70? cpu but you still compare your cpu with a 2 year old cpu.
                  65w+120=185 I'm sure my board can not handle 185 watt
                  its a 140watt mainboard.
                  ~140-65=~75 watt
                  but your cpu is a dual-core cpu and my cpu is a quad-core cpu...
                  this means ~75-65w=10Watt.
                  your system is only "10" watt better than my system.

                  overall my system is faster than your dualcore system 14000 mips in 7zip measured in wine with the 7zip windows clind. your system maybe do have 6000-8000 mips...

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                  • Are you too stupid to run
                    Code:
                    7z b
                    Result with locked 39 turbo, base 100
                    Code:
                    7-Zip [64] 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
                    p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=de_DE.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,8 CPUs)
                    
                    RAM size:    7885 MB,  # CPU hardware threads:   8
                    RAM usage:   1701 MB,  # Benchmark threads:      8
                    
                    Dict        Compressing          |        Decompressing
                          Speed Usage    R/U Rating  |    Speed Usage    R/U Rating
                           KB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS  |     KB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS
                    
                    22:   19729   577   3323  19193  |   255778   793   2907  23068
                    23:   21606   657   3351  22014  |   250634   786   2916  22930
                    24:   19841   630   3387  21333  |   249470   793   2917  23141
                    25:   20881   674   3537  23842  |   243943   787   2914  22939
                    ----------------------------------------------------------------
                    Avr:          635   3400  21595               790   2913  23019
                    Tot:          712   3157  22307
                    As you OC your cpu, i did the same. Just compare with
                    Turbo at 43/42/41/40 , Base 105.2 (cpu does not allow direct multiplicator change)
                    Code:
                    7-Zip [64] 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
                    p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=de_DE.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,8 CPUs)
                    
                    RAM size:    7885 MB,  # CPU hardware threads:   8
                    RAM usage:   1701 MB,  # Benchmark threads:      8
                    
                    Dict        Compressing          |        Decompressing
                          Speed Usage    R/U Rating  |    Speed Usage    R/U Rating
                           KB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS  |     KB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS
                    
                    22:   21620   612   3436  21032  |   263713   782   3040  23783
                    23:   22848   651   3575  23280  |   263828   786   3069  24137
                    24:   22664   670   3635  24368  |   261552   791   3068  24261
                    25:   22303   687   3706  25465  |   258269   793   3064  24287
                    ----------------------------------------------------------------
                    Avr:          655   3588  23536               788   3060  24117
                    Tot:          722   3324  23827
                    Btw. f(50000):
                    Code:
                    30.62user 0.30system 0:31.05elapsed 99PU (0avgtext+0avgdata 1496maxresident)k
                    Last edited by Kano; 11 July 2012, 03:59 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Kano View Post
                      Are you too stupid to run:7z b
                      you should read these articles and try to find the difference:
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity
                      After you read these articles you should get the point that your sentence do not make sense at all.
                      But sure you can only get the point if you are a human with intelligence.

                      Apart from that I benchmark more than only 7zip with my method.
                      The requirements are higher!
                      anyway your total number is: 23 827 without the higher requirements of wine and stuff.
                      now calculate the speed per euro (o well I know you never do this because you never pay for your hardware by yourself.)
                      23827/270? =88.24
                      14000/50?=280
                      my system is 3,18 times faster per euro than your system. (but you will still claim your system is "faster")

                      You can buy 4000? Intel cpus and its "Faster" in 7zip but its just "stupid" to calculate like this.
                      Anyone who do economical decisions will admit that I'm right.

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