First Linux Benchmarks Of AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer

[misiu_mp]

AMD won 64bit extension battle because they had a very strong product, at least as good as Intels and they were selling it at a very competitive price thus quickly gaining market share. There were simply too many amd cpus out there for intel to ignore that. Now, with the crappy lower-end cpus that AMD makes and no one wants to buy, what the hell are they thinking proposing new instruction sets?

I can't believe it - over 1 billion new transistors for almost no benefit? What the fuck AMD?

A standardization committee for the x86 architecture would really be a great thing. It would be great for competition, but I am afraid it might be too late to save the technological development. So much shitty legacy crap is already out there, it stinks.

[deanjo]

as i know amd come with SSE5 first this means (FMA3+XOP+CVT16)

Not according to AMD documentation. FMA4+XOP+CVT16.

[mcirsta]

This type of remarks makes me less likely to read future articles.

He was actually being polite by not saying it's crap.

Here's what Hitler has to say about it, couldn't agree with him more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SArxcnpXStE

Funny stuff too , I laughed so hard.

[not.sure]

This type of remarks makes me less likely to read future articles.

And AMD less likely to send samples.

[that guy]

Evidently they don't care too much about Linux coverage for this less-than-stellar product launch.

This type of remarks makes me less likely to read future articles.

[deanjo]

Nope wrong again... XOP AND FMA4 were parts SSE5 that were not compatible with AVX and so they were spun off into their own extensions. The rest of SSE5 was compatible with AVX and so thats what it became.

EDIT: FMA3 is not the same as FMA4

Exactly...

[duby229]

no SSE5 is FMA3... and they don't have FMA3 in the bulldozer they ad FMA4 because intel cheat to amd

now intel makes FMA3 first and amd had to ad FMA3 in the next bulldozer.

also the XOP is SSE5 and intel do not support it at all.

intel will bring FMA3 in 2013...

Nope wrong again... XOP AND FMA4 were parts SSE5 that were not compatible with AVX and so they were spun off into their own extensions. The rest of SSE5 was compatible with AVX and so thats what it became.

EDIT: FMA3 is not the same as FMA4

[deanjo]

no SSE5 is FMA3... and they don't have FMA3 in the bulldozer they ad FMA4 because intel cheat to amd

now intel makes FMA3 first and amd had to ad FMA3 in the next bulldozer.

also the XOP is SSE5 and intel do not support it at all.

intel will bring FMA3 in 2013...

SSE5 according to AMD's documents is FMA4, XOP and CVT16 as of the 2009 revision of it.

http://developer.amd.com/archive/cpu/SSE5/Pages/default.aspx

linked document

http://support.amd.com/us/Embedded_TechDocs/43479.pdf

[deanjo]

Besides, that's pretty much the only time they've ever won an instruction set battle. They've also created 3Dnow!, SSE4a, SSE5(or whatever it became),

SSE5 is what you see in BD right now, they just made it compatible with AVX and dropped the SSE5 name.

[nepwk]

Can't say I agree there since quite the opposite happened when AMD did introduce x86-64 extensions which where quite different then anything intel was offering at the time.

x64 isn't really the same thing as SSE/AVX/FMA, etc... x64 has more to do with memory management than anything else, the other instructions are mostly aimed at improving instruction-per-clock.

Besides, that's pretty much the only time they've ever won an instruction set battle. They've also created 3Dnow!, SSE4a, SSE5(or whatever it became), etc... and they never get much traction. 64-bit x86 was inevitable, AMD just beat Intel to the punch. With anything other normal instruction set that isn't destined to happen, they're going to have a hard time getting traction within the ecosystem, considering their market share.