AMD 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver To Be Merged For Linux 6.13

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  • Type44Q
    Phoronix Member
    • Dec 2022
    • 83

    #11
    Originally posted by avis View Post
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    • smitty3268
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 6944

      #12
      Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
      smitty3268 Moving home and professional users to the same platform will help make AMD more competitive with NVIDIA. You buy NVIDIA and you have CUDA and all the current features available on whatever GPU you buy.
      If you care about professional uses, then obviously going with a card designed primarily for professional use-cases is the best option. Most consumers don't care about CUDA though.

      The promise AMD made was that by designing rdna specifically for consumer use, it would be cheaper and better at that than by just getting a cut down pro card. Obviously that has failed, which I think is why they are killing off the line and falling back to their old strategy again.

      Anyway, I'm not saying that's a terrible thing. It will certainly simplify creating the hardware for AMD, and maybe that will end up being better all around anyway, but it was at the very least a sign to me that they were wanting to cut down expenses on the gpu consumer side. These layoffs just kind of confirm that for me.

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      • mitch971
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2023
        • 6

        #13
        Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

        combined with a lot of the world not having very strong labor laws helps to prevent unionization efforts
        Mainly in the US, here in France you can unionize pretty easily

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        • avis
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2022
          • 2188

          #14
          Originally posted by Type44Q View Post

          Community Service Bulletin:

          Upvote this post if you'd like to downvote Avis.
          Check the mindful reply that got 11 upvotes: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...02#post1505802

          Maybe you could stop posting BS and actually ignore the replies that are explicitly marked as offtopic.

          "Community service", FFS. Please spare me.

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          • skeevy420
            Senior Member
            • May 2017
            • 8566

            #15
            Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
            If you care about professional uses, then obviously going with a card designed primarily for professional use-cases is the best option. Most consumers don't care about CUDA though.

            The promise AMD made was that by designing rdna specifically for consumer use, it would be cheaper and better at that than by just getting a cut down pro card. Obviously that has failed, which I think is why they are killing off the line and falling back to their old strategy again.

            Anyway, I'm not saying that's a terrible thing. It will certainly simplify creating the hardware for AMD, and maybe that will end up being better all around anyway, but it was at the very least a sign to me that they were wanting to cut down expenses on the gpu consumer side. These layoffs just kind of confirm that for me.
            To me it was a sign that they needed money so they implemented a strategy where people who used AMD were forced into buying more than one AMD GPU. The long term effect of that is that nowadays everything has CUDA support and ROCm is an afterthought if its even a thought at all.

            While most consumers don't care about CUDA, enough of them do which is why it is so prevalent and easy-to-use on Linux. ROCm has been a nightmare.

            Most consumers don't care about Linux. There are probably more CUDA users on Windows than there are people running Linux desktops.

            Most consumers don't know what a tariff is. It didn't stop them for voting for them. What's a tariff? What does it mean to be a member of the E.U.? Did Biden drop out? We might be individually smart here and there, but we're collective morons.

            Most consumers

            We are the Borg. Prepare to be assimi....

            *watches 2 girls 1 cup*

            Locate the nearest transwarp conduit.

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            • skeevy420
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 8566

              #16
              Originally posted by mitch971 View Post

              Mainly in the US, here in France you can unionize pretty easily
              I envy y'all. I wish my people had your peoples' courage and bravery.

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              • smitty3268
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 6944

                #17
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                To me it was a sign that they needed money so they implemented a strategy where people who used AMD were forced into buying more than one AMD GPU. The long term effect of that is that nowadays everything has CUDA support and ROCm is an afterthought if its even a thought at all.
                CUDA was the only thing that mattered for compute before rdna existed, and it's still the only thing that matters today. I don't see anything AMD has done with their hardware which made an impact either way on that. CUDA simply got a big head start, and ROCm barely works, and that's all based on software not hardware.

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                • sfjuocekr
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 21

                  #18
                  It would be more beneficial to have more fine grained control.

                  Have the whole system run on the frequency policy, but specific applications that the user selects use the cache policy instead?

                  Also, applications could probably be smarter about their behavior as well if this was exposed in some way.

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