AMD 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver To Be Merged For Linux 6.13

[phoronix]

Phoronix: AMD 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver To Be Merged For Linux 6.13

Last month AMD Linux engineers posted patches for a 3D V-Cache Optimizer driver for Linux that allows the user to communicate their cache vs. frequency preference depending upon workload and for the 3D V-Cache processors where some CCDs have the larger cache but not all. That driver is now ready for appearing in the upcoming Linux 6.13 kernel...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-3DV-Optimizer-Linux-6.13

[avis]

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Michael

You're usually on top of all the events and I'm quite confused as to why you've not covered:

• The release of RHEL 10 beta and RHEL 9.5
• AMD's decision to cut 4% of its workforce

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[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

I assume gamemode will add support for toggling this automatically.

[F.Ultra]

I assume gamemode will add support for toggling this automatically.

gamemode already locks games to the ccd with the most cache

[skeevy420]

You're usually on top of all the events and I'm quite confused as to why you've not covered:

• The release of RHEL 10 beta and RHEL 9.5
• AMD's decision to cut 4% of its workforce

Christmas Layoffs weren't a meme before we had memes for a reason.

Practically every single tech company lays people off between now and February for stock manipulation. This same thing happens like clockwork every year and it affects more than just tech employees, but it works the same regardless of industry. Earnings reports come in, prices are down because it's the lull before the holiday season, that leads to stock prices going down, and the solution to that is to lay people off to make the stocks bounce back up because that's seen as "doing responsible business". A few months later and the companies will all start hiring again which will also make their stocks go up because they'll be able to frame it as "we need to hire more people to accomplish our goals and win".

Instead of having long term employees it's cheaper to continuously fire and hire people which has the effects of suppressing wages, preventing benefits from accumulating too much, and keeping people in fear of losing their job. That fear, which is the primary motivator, combined with a lot of the world not having very strong labor laws helps to prevent unionization efforts and keeps the rank and file employees in their place. They don't want uppity grunts that think they have rights.

The fired people will move to another company, get two or three years in, and they'll be laid off yet again. They'll do that until they burn out or actually, hopefully, find a good job.

They see it as a cycle, a vicious circle of doing business, but from my perspective they're spiraling around the drain. Eventually the Peoples' Sink will run out of water faster than it's being replenished. That's what happens when a running faucet becomes a trickle.

[gentoofu]

Christmas Layoffs weren't a meme before we had memes for a reason.

Practically every single tech company lays people off between now and February for stock manipulation. This same thing happens like clockwork every year and it affects more than just tech employees, but it works the same regardless of industry. Earnings reports come in, prices are down because it's the lull before the holiday season, that leads to stock prices going down, and the solution to that is to lay people off to make the stocks bounce back up because that's seen as "doing responsible business". A few months later and the companies will all start hiring again which will also make their stocks go up because they'll be able to frame it as "we need to hire more people to accomplish our goals and win".

Instead of having long term employees it's cheaper to continuously fire and hire people which has the effects of suppressing wages, preventing benefits from accumulating too much, and keeping people in fear of losing their job. That fear, which is the primary motivator, combined with a lot of the world not having very strong labor laws helps to prevent unionization efforts and keeps the rank and file employees in their place. They don't want uppity grunts that think they have rights.

The fired people will move to another company, get two or three years in, and they'll be laid off yet again. They'll do that until they burn out or actually, hopefully, find a good job.

They see it as a cycle, a vicious circle of doing business, but from my perspective they're spiraling around the drain. Eventually the Peoples' Sink will run out of water faster than it's being replenished. That's what happens when a running faucet becomes a trickle.

I don't know, man. A part of the 4% layoffs are resources in AMD Link. Considering AMD is a fraction of Nvidia's market share, and a fraction of AMD graphics customers use AMD Link, they've finally realized that it's not worth burning money to keep this feature afloat. This thing has to support iOS phones/tablets, Android phones/tablets, Apple TVs, and Android TVs. There's security, marketing, and there's an aspect of how these integrate with Adrenaline and the pile of bug tickets it brings. So, for a fraction of a fraction of their shrinking market share in discrete GPUs, the cost just doesn't add up and are better served instead by third party vendors.

Also, the stock market in regards to AMD is very irregular and does not make sense... And while the hiring season align with the industries due to grads availability, Lisa ain't gonna wait for her projects to get started for the sake of stock manipulation lol.

[smitty3268]

I don't know, man. A part of the 4% layoffs are resources in AMD Link. Considering AMD is a fraction of Nvidia's market share, and a fraction of AMD graphics customers use AMD Link, they've finally realized that it's not worth burning money to keep this feature afloat. This thing has to support iOS phones/tablets, Android phones/tablets, Apple TVs, and Android TVs. There's security, marketing, and there's an aspect of how these integrate with Adrenaline and the pile of bug tickets it brings. So, for a fraction of a fraction of their shrinking market share in discrete GPUs, the cost just doesn't add up and are better served instead by third party vendors.

Also, the stock market in regards to AMD is very irregular and does not make sense... And while the hiring season align with the industries due to grads availability, Lisa ain't gonna wait for her projects to get started for the sake of stock manipulation lol.

I think the writing was on the wall when they killed off rdna in favor of moving their consumer lineup back to cdna. They're cost cutting on the consumer gpu side right now. Sounds like they are willing to cede leadership of that market to nvidia and are content to play second fiddle as the bargain brand going forward.

[geerge]

I think the writing was on the wall when they killed off rdna in favor of moving their consumer lineup back to cdna. They're cost cutting on the consumer gpu side right now. Sounds like they are willing to cede leadership of that market to nvidia and are content to play second fiddle as the bargain brand going forward.

Is the consumer lineup really going back to cdna? So fp64 will be good again? That would be nice.

[skeevy420]

I don't know, man. A part of the 4% layoffs are resources in AMD Link. Considering AMD is a fraction of Nvidia's market share, and a fraction of AMD graphics customers use AMD Link, they've finally realized that it's not worth burning money to keep this feature afloat. This thing has to support iOS phones/tablets, Android phones/tablets, Apple TVs, and Android TVs. There's security, marketing, and there's an aspect of how these integrate with Adrenaline and the pile of bug tickets it brings. So, for a fraction of a fraction of their shrinking market share in discrete GPUs, the cost just doesn't add up and are better served instead by third party vendors.

Also, the stock market in regards to AMD is very irregular and does not make sense... And while the hiring season align with the industries due to grads availability, Lisa ain't gonna wait for her projects to get started for the sake of stock manipulation lol.

Well, it actually IS good business to do any necessary layoffs during the yearly purge. As a Linux user I forgot that Link even existed. I forget a lot of the features my GPU should actually be able to do since Linux doesn't support them. Outside of the actual AMDGPU driver in the kernel, AMD's software support is atrocious.

And regarding stock prices, practically every year that AMD doesn't have a flagship product release there's a dip in the price that starts around August to November and ends between November and February.

smitty3268 Moving home and professional users to the same platform will help make AMD more competitive with NVIDIA. You buy NVIDIA and you have CUDA and all the current features available on whatever GPU you buy. You buy AMD and you have to check with a matrix consisting of GPU models and AMD's Features to see what GPU actually supports what. Then you finally find your GPU only to see that it's one of the models with an asterisk where it says some shit like "We support GFX_1234 but not in your model of GPU. It should work but your results may vary and we won't help you if you have problems." Moving everything to the same platform should help alleviate that problem of needing a feature matrix.

AMD did that as a way to entice people to buy more than one GPU. The problem is that means a professional home user would need one Pro GPU at work, one Pro GPU at home, and one Consumer GPU at home. Ain't nobody wanna buy three GPUs.

Instead, people would rather just buy one Consumer NVIDIA GPU at home and a Pro NVIDIA GPU at work since the Consumer NVIDIA GPU supports all the features of the Pro GPU, it's just not as fast, but that's good enough for prototyping and trying things out as well as they don't have to deal with multiple GPUs in the same system or have to have one system per GPU. I really fucking hope that's what AMD's endgame is.

I hope they give up trying to compete with NVIDIA at that level. At some point it's like watching Lamborghini and Ferrari. Cool. Many fast. So much win. Anyways, I can't afford that, where's my Honda Accord GPU?

[skeevy420]

Is the consumer lineup really going back to cdna? So fp64 will be good again? That would be nice.

UDNA