AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Linux Performance: Zen 5 With 3D V-Cache

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  • ZeroPointEnergy
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    Originally posted by DumbFsck View Post
    Software support may be shit for gamers, but if it was a more open platform and the metal vs vulkan vs DX and ARM etc was "solved", people would absolutely not believe you can get a Mac mini for a bit more than the 9800x3d
    So if it was completely different then it would be awesome? Ok.

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  • DumbFsck
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    Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy View Post
    A processor who can't run 99.99% of all games natively. Ok Apple fanboy
    The silicon design really is still awesome though. Software support may be shit for gamers, but if it was a more open platform and the metal vs vulkan vs DX and ARM etc was "solved", people would absolutely not believe you can get a Mac mini for a bit more than the 9800x3d, as seen by the performance they already get on very unoptimised compatibility modes galore games "supported" on the platform.

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  • ZeroPointEnergy
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    Originally posted by avis View Post
    A pathetic showing vs Apple M4 Pro
    A processor who can't run 99.99% of all games natively. Ok Apple fanboy

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  • lakerssuperman
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    Keep in mind that while the 9800X3D is faster than the 7800X3D, that speed does come at the expense of using almost 50% more electricity. It should also be noted that the 7800X3D can be configured to use less electricity and potentially use its boosted speeds longer than it will with the default UEFI settings. These results don't necessarily show the 7800X3D at its best...Set the CPU to 65w eco mode and set Curve Optimizer to -20. Use Windows and Ryzen Master to fine tune it further from there...

    I'd assume that the 9800X3D can be reigned in to use less power and still be equal to or better than the 7800X3D.
    Wendell at Level1 said running the chip in 65w eco mode largely didn't impact gaming performance if I recall the review video he put out correctly.

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  • Anux
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    If all you care about is efficiency, though, the 7800X3D is almost certainly going to continue to be the chip to beat. AMD had to bin those really hard to get the best possible silicon in them.
    The 9800X3D would win in power efficiency if you limit it's clocks like they are limited on the Zen 4 part. Those last few MHz are the doom of efficiency as Intel had to acknowledge with its past > 6 GHz designs.
    But it's a gaming CPU and besides large cache, frequency is a main lever to win there.

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  • pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post

    Nah. Trump won because voters blame Democrats for inflation.

    It really is that simple. Presidents almost always win based off the impression people have of the economy, other factors only come into play when people are mixed on the economy. Kamala never really had a shot, IMO.
    Didn't you know that the president has a little nob in their office that controls inflation? And there's another one that controls the price of gasoline? I'm sure it's not more complicated than that, like impacts from extended periods of crazy low rates to try and ward of a recession during the global pandemic, OPEC is fake news, etc.

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  • pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post
    For the same price, I would buy 7950x any day. I don't game at 1080P anyway. At 4K, 3D CPU advantage vanishes.
    Yup. 7950X, or save $100 and pick up a 9900X and put that savings into a better GPU. The 12 core parts have been the red headed step children and often have better deals. Zen 5 mobile is quite exciting because we got a 50% core bump on "normal" SKUs (even if it's 4P/8E), the generational performance gain of the 890M vs 780M iGPU was large, and the efficiency was good. Zen 5 desktop has been pretty meh (compared to Zen 4).

    Edit: I think I'd actually be more interested in a Ryzen 9 AI 370 APU with some additional PCIe lanes.
    Last edited by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx; 07 November 2024, 03:22 AM.

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  • yump
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    Originally posted by WonkoTheSaneUK View Post

    Techpowerup covered that in their review of the chip. Here's the relevant page (Windows 11 23H2 used, obvs):-
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...800x3d/22.html
    Interesting that it has such an advantage over the other 9600X and 9950X, which have the same IGP. Looks like it's mainly from Counter Strike 2 being a yuuuge outlier.

    Maybe it's hitting a glass jaw of the arbitration between the CPU and GPU access to DRAM?

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
    What I think put Trump over the top in the final leg of the race was
    Nah. Trump won because voters blame Democrats for inflation.

    It really is that simple. Presidents almost always win based off the impression people have of the economy, other factors only come into play when people are mixed on the economy. Kamala never really had a shot, IMO.

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  • jayN
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    Originally posted by WonkoTheSaneUK View Post

    Techpowerup covered that in their review of the chip. Here's the relevant page (Windows 11 23H2 used, obvs):-
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...800x3d/22.html
    Thanks for that ... looks like they also might have used the iGPU on some of the machine learning tests ...
    The Ryzen 7 9800X3D establishes AMD as the leader in gaming performance. This Zen 5-based X3D chip is not only fast, it also comes with full support for overclocking. Besides gaming, application performance is considerably improved over the 7800X3D, but that comes at a price.


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