AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Linux Performance: Zen 5 With 3D V-Cache

[citral]

Intel IS wrecked though.

[Teggs]

Impressive performance, stable operation, no regressions. We need more hardware like this.

Well, looking at the last playthrough video from Squadron42 - when the time is right I may upgrade to that CPU our gaming rigs

I hope you don't mean to buy it for Squadron 42. If CIG hadn't nuked their forums, I could show you posts from ten years ago of people enthusing about how their brand new high-end rig was going to rule that game. For whatever games are actually out at the time though, it looks like you cannot go wrong.

[sophisticles]

No shit. Talk about depressing, though I'm not surprised. So many people that don't get on the internet are completely oblivious to anything bad that guy does and the ones that know what he's doing don't really care because they're pretty hateful people. When they're not hateful people, they're just rich.

I was helping a friend with a printer earlier today and the conversation had one hell of a shift

"Trump's never done anything illegal."

"Trump writing derogatory posts on Truth Social about his judges during trial and now that he's a convicted felon out on bail awaiting sentencing were both illegal."

"Boy there sure is a lot of dust in my computer. I bet that dust filter is really dirty."

"It doesn't have a filter. That's just how dirty your computer is...Anyways, you need to buy some black ink. That's why your printer isn't working and what the orange light next to 'Black Ink' means. Orange means it's out and needs to be replaced."

He didn't like that Orange comparison. That then went into some bullshit about how Elon Musk buying Twitter and making Starlink is him being the bastion of restoring freedom of speech, but that transition from specific things he's doing illegal to boy my filter is dirty, , just goes to show how they really don't care about facts and specifics, just thoughts and feelings.

That's when I went into detail about how Starlink is ruining astrophotography, how Musk pulled Ukraine's Starlink service when they made advances towards Russia, and how if you have to pay for Starlink then it really isn't free speech. That was transitioned right back to printer ink.

Anyways, they don't really seem to care about the facts as much as they do their feelings. The guy I was talking to was a 70 year old retired teacher who runs his own business and has over 20 rent houses. He's not dumb. He just sees Trump as better for his bottom line so anything negative becomes justified. The worst part is the majority of the people he rents to are on welfare. It makes him the biggest welfare recipient that I know. He's the welfare queen that him and people like him complain about.

I will gladly take the bait and due Michael a solid by helping to this comment section explode to 20 pages.

Trump one for because he was the better candidate, pure and simple.

Whether or not you agree with him, Trump ran on policy, Harris ran on bullshit.

What I think put Trump over the top in the final leg of the race was his promise to not tax tips, which Kamala then stole and said she supported, his promise to not tax O/T earnings and his promise of no sales tax on the sale of American cars, as well as the belief that he will end the two major wars quickly.

The border issue was just the icing on the cake.

Kamala's campaign was doomed because of how she came to be the nominee, the Dems told the American public that there was nothing wrong with Biden mentally, even though we could see with out own eyes that he was clearly not.

They told the American public that he was the sharpest guy in the meetings they were having in the White House, despite the fact that he could barely get two sentences out without stumbling over his words.

He said in an interview that the only way he was dropping out was if God Himself came down and told him to drop out.

Apparently God sent down Clooney to convey the message via the Gospel of the NYT and I think many people say that as the Dems stabbing Biden not in the back, but in the front.

Then without a primary to vet a different candidate, he endorses Kamala and everyone quickly coalesces around her.

She runs one of the dumbest campaigns possible, at first she talks about "joy" and is dancing in the halls with children and then she and the rest of the Libs start calling Trump a threat to democracy, Biden says they need to put a bullseye on Trump's back, they nearly get him killed and they still don't stop.

So tell me, what does it say about Kamala and the Democratic party, when the American public looks at two candidates, one which the Dems call unhinged, a racist, a sexist, a bigot, Islamophobic, antisemitic, an existential threat, a felon, homophobic, transphobic, and America still decides that such a person is a better choice than she is?

The Dems, as a whole, and she in particular, need to look in the mirror and ask themselves that question.

Because it speaks volumes that Trump carried the popular vote as well as the electoral count and he carried the so-called Blue Wall.

Maybe if Kamala had not focused so much on the right to kill unborn children at will, taxing everyone with a spare penny so she can redistribute it and promising to tax unrealized gains, while calling anyone that supported Trump every name in the book, maybe she would have won.

If the Dems ever put another candidate like JFK, ask not what this country can do for you, ask what you can do for this country, I will vote for that person.

But these "progressives"?

No thanks, and most of the voting public agrees with me.

[sophisticles]

AMD really knows how to make scam processors.

Add a small amount of cheap cache, and sell it as a "gaming" CPU.

Now if AMD released a CPU with 2Gb of this type of cache, maybe they would have something.

But this?

Only a sucker would buy it.

So AMD will probably sell many of these.

[smitty3268]

Keep in mind that while the 9800X3D is faster than the 7800X3D, that speed does come at the expense of using almost 50% more electricity. It should also be noted that the 7800X3D can be configured to use less electricity and potentially use its boosted speeds longer than it will with the default UEFI settings. These results don't necessarily show the 7800X3D at its best...Set the CPU to 65w eco mode and set Curve Optimizer to -20. Use Windows and Ryzen Master to fine tune it further from there...

I'd assume that the 9800X3D can be reigned in to use less power and still be equal to or better than the 7800X3D.

It obviously depends on what you value, but I think most 9800X3D buyers will view that as a pro, not a con.

As in, they don't really care about power use as long as it's not too crazy, and the way the prior gen X3D chips were thermally restricted was a major design flaw that's now been overcome.

If all you care about is efficiency, though, the 7800X3D is almost certainly going to continue to be the chip to beat. AMD had to bin those really hard to get the best possible silicon in them.

[jayN]

Techpowerup covered that in their review of the chip. Here's the relevant page (Windows 11 23H2 used, obvs):-
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...800x3d/22.html

Thanks for that ... looks like they also might have used the iGPU on some of the machine learning tests ...

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/7.html

[smitty3268]

What I think put Trump over the top in the final leg of the race was

Nah. Trump won because voters blame Democrats for inflation.

It really is that simple. Presidents almost always win based off the impression people have of the economy, other factors only come into play when people are mixed on the economy. Kamala never really had a shot, IMO.

[yump]

Techpowerup covered that in their review of the chip. Here's the relevant page (Windows 11 23H2 used, obvs):-
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...800x3d/22.html

Interesting that it has such an advantage over the other 9600X and 9950X, which have the same IGP. Looks like it's mainly from Counter Strike 2 being a yuuuge outlier.

Maybe it's hitting a glass jaw of the arbitration between the CPU and GPU access to DRAM?

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

For the same price, I would buy 7950x any day. I don't game at 1080P anyway. At 4K, 3D CPU advantage vanishes.

Yup. 7950X, or save $100 and pick up a 9900X and put that savings into a better GPU. The 12 core parts have been the red headed step children and often have better deals. Zen 5 mobile is quite exciting because we got a 50% core bump on "normal" SKUs (even if it's 4P/8E), the generational performance gain of the 890M vs 780M iGPU was large, and the efficiency was good. Zen 5 desktop has been pretty meh (compared to Zen 4).

Edit: I think I'd actually be more interested in a Ryzen 9 AI 370 APU with some additional PCIe lanes.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Nah. Trump won because voters blame Democrats for inflation.

It really is that simple. Presidents almost always win based off the impression people have of the economy, other factors only come into play when people are mixed on the economy. Kamala never really had a shot, IMO.

Didn't you know that the president has a little nob in their office that controls inflation? And there's another one that controls the price of gasoline? I'm sure it's not more complicated than that, like impacts from extended periods of crazy low rates to try and ward of a recession during the global pandemic, OPEC is fake news, etc.