AMD Formally Announces Ryzen 7 9800X3D Specs - Should Be Great For Linux Creators

[avis]

No, there was the Core i7 3820 and the 39XX (6 core) variants they all were faster and much more expensive (not only the CPU but the platform too.).
Don't hurt me, the naming bullshit is on Intel, but it was the sandy bridge top die and released with the 2000 series.

Would it? How can you know that? The Intel Core i7 3970X was the fastest gaming CPU back then (15% faster then 2500K) and it did cost 1000 $.
So your theory is, that because it was the highest end CPU, the price tag was justified but half the price is not justified for the fastest gaming CPU?
I don't wanna argue about what happens if Intel goes the way AMD did back then. Surely AMD will charge whatever they can and release as little as they need to, too stay on top, that's just what capitalism dictates you to do. That's why we need Intel dearly to release just one good CPU architecture.

The Core i7 3820 and the 39XX were for a whole different market. Stop making shit up.

And AMD has Threadrippers for that matter that you have conveniently forgotten about:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/workstations/ryzen-threadripper.html

Once again, AMD fans are willing to bend reality to put their company in a good light.

The AMD cult is the worst cult I've ever dealt with.

At least Apple fans admit the company is ripping them off, AMD fans will create 100 layers of justifications for the same attitude from their idol.

[Anux]

The Core i7 3820 and the 39XX were for a whole different market. Stop making shit up.

They were bought and used by gamers and there were gaming benches for them. Also there is no mentioning by Intel that you shouldn't buy those for gaming.

And AMD has Threadrippers for that matter that you have conveniently forgotten about:

You are the one making up bullshit, Threadripper is not for gaming, you could easily conclude that just by looking at the frequencies or if you find any, gaming benchmarks.

Once again, AMD fans are willing to bend reality to put their company in a good light.

The AMD cult is the worst cult I've ever dealt with.

Yes we all know that you go straight to insults when you don't have any arguments. I shouldn't have replied, that's on me.

Meanwhile you're defending Intel pricing to death.

[avis]

They were bought and used by gamers and there were gaming benches for them. Also there is no mentioning by Intel that you shouldn't buy those for gaming.

You are the one making up bullshit, Threadripper is not for gaming, you could easily conclude that just by looking at the frequencies or if you find any, gaming benchmarks.

Yes we all know that you go straight to insults when you don't have any arguments. I shouldn't have replied, that's on me.

Meanwhile you're defending Intel pricing to death.

Both Core i7 3820 and the 39XX were for HPC, just like Theadrippers are.

9800X3D barring the failure of Zen 5 in general and its pathetic performance increase should have been a mainstream architecture instead. It's NOT an HPC CPU, never has been.

Now you have an anemic "standard" Zen 5 line-up which already costs an arm and a leg, and "premium" X3D CPUs, a whole "new" segment for AMD fans who are willing to pay a LOT more.

They are literally being robbed of their hard-earned money for what should have been a standard desktop CPU at, I don't know, $330 (which is outrageous considering AMD hasn't increased core count in over five years) or so for the 9800X3D, instead they are salivating at the prospect of paying almost $500 for it.

$310 245K in MT scenarios handily beats 9700X which was announced at whopping $360 and it's still "All fine, please disperse":

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-5-245k/10.html

God, that's crazy. An "underdog" company they said. The best bang for the buck they said. AMD's bean counters are laughing all the way to the bank.

Have a nice day. I'm done with this fruitless exercise in arguing with people who are fine with being ripped off.

[Anux]

Both Core i7 3820 and the 39XX were for HPC

What, do you even know what HPC is? You're just making stuff up whenever you realize that you wrote total bullshit. This was a workstation class CPU from Intel. And of course, gamers couldn't care less.

It's NOT an HPC CPU, never has been.

Yeah of course, but that was just your straw men.

$310 245K in MT scenarios handily beats 9700X which was announced at whopping $360 and it's still "All fine, please disperse":

Well guess which midrange CPUs won in MT back in 2011 and the reason they got sold below 200 $ was just because they weren't overall competitive.
Intels 245K is not even consistently winning against an 8 core 7700 from last gen. 300 dollars is just too much for such a special case niche product.

[avis]

You're right, those were not HPC, those were workstation CPUs, again a wholly separate lineup.

Is the 9800X3D is a workstation CPU? No? Then what the hell are you talking about?

And oh my boy you use underperforming Intel as a fucking excuse to justify being ripped off by AMD. Whoa.

Why didn't Intel use your excuse for more more than a decade when AMD was in the dumpster? They could have easily made their CPUs three times as expensive, yet they didn't.

Again, like I said earlier you are ready to make up 100 layers of crappy arguments to justify being ripped off because it's AMD. Poor Intel, workstation CPUs, or whatnot.

9800X3D costs less than $150 to produce. I guess if it's a "gaming" CPU, it's OK for AMD take a page off NVIDIA's book and fuck their customers.

Fuck this crap. I'm done here.

[Anux]

You're right, those were not HPC, those were workstation CPUs, again a wholly separate lineup.

As I said, gamers don't care, if it's faster in gaming it will be bought.

Is the 9800X3D is a workstation CPU? No? Then what the hell are you talking about?

What is a workstation CPU? When you look at Core i7 3970X, just the same core with sometimes more mem channels and most times more cores than desktop. The later iterations that were actual server CPUs like Threadripper you also got massive IO capabilities.

But essentially if you don't go back to Sun, DEC, NeXT times it's just a stronger desktop CPU.

And oh my boy you use underperforming Intel as a fucking excuse to justify being ripped off by AMD. Whoa.

I'm not sure what your mental issues are but I'm just trying to explain really simple reality in a capitalistic world (the fact I need to explain this to you is already telling). Why do you get your dick out and masturbate like a lunatic?

Why didn't Intel use your excuse for more more than a decade when AMD was in the dumpster?

Pleas read what I wrote, I'm not excusing anything and if you look at my table above you will see that Intel did exactly that, they charged an arm and a leg for a 8 core until AMD became competitive, then they charged roughly the same and now that they are loosing they make their stuff cheaper and cheaper. That's just how the market works.

They could have easily made their CPUs three times as expensive, yet they didn't.

No they couldn't if they wanted to sell a reasonable amount.

justify being ripped off because it's AMD.

Dude where have I been ripped off? Your just running wild in your fever dream.

9800X3D costs less than $150 to produce.

Much less I would argue, non X3D is even cheaper. And it's for sure cheaper to produce than Intels 200 series.

[DumbFsck]

Disingenuous is your entire post and the knowledge of history.

Wrong. I'll go point by point, but it is really telling how you didn't address the main point of my post, that it was disingenuous saying "slight". Focusing instead on the historical comparison, which I said I "thought", so you could just say, " oh you thought wrong, the 5700x3d is not a more apt comparison", but you also ignore that it exists.

• 9800X3D will not be the top of the line CPU, there will be 9900X3D and 9950X3D both even more expensive and faster.

• Is there any CPU on the market that offers more FPS? That is what I meant when I said it isn't "mid tier" as you keep repeating.
  
  

• Only 2600K was faster than the 2500K and not by a large margin. 9950X3D will be significantly faster in MT scenarios.