Intel & AMD Form An x86 Ecosystem Advisory Group

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Intel & AMD Form An x86 Ecosystem Advisory Group

Intel and AMD have jointly announced the creation of an x86 ecosystem advisory group to bring together the two companies as well as other industry leaders -- both companies and individuals such as Linux creator Linus Torvalds...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-AMD-x86-Ecosystem-Group

[edxposed]

Qualcomm and Arm should learn from them instead of being too busy making e-shits that are EOL the next year.

[ssokolow]

Apple Silicon and Microsoft's efforts to replicate it with Qualcomm are probably the perceived common enemies that prompted them to do this.

[aviallon]

Survival instinct: regroup in face of danger.

[avis]

Can someone please translate this into English?

I see a ton of buzz words and marketing speak and I can't catch the essence.

[geerge]

Can someone please translate this into English?

I see a ton of buzz words and marketing speak and I can't catch the essence.

Hopefully it means AMD and intel get on the same page abpout new instruction sets and things like APX. On paper it sounds like a great idea to invent new tech for x86 and let the competitor in the duopoly catch up 4 years later, but the x86 boys probably need to band together and get their act together so that x86 remains dominant. Better the competitor you know than the dozen competitors you've effectively shut out from competing because licensing.

[Danny3]

How about they start fully supporting Coreboot / Libreboot?
And SR-IOV, CEC?

And do something about the awful boot speed?
Especially now when CPUs have huge processing power (multi-cores, multi-threading), storage is very fast with NVME SSDs, busses are wide.
We should have PCs that boot in less than 1 second.

[sarmad]

Is x86 an open standard now? Can any company just jump on and start building x86 CPUs or do they still need licensing from Intel?

[V1tol]

My first proposal to AMD and Intel - make more than 2 memory channels for consumer CPUs. That was enough when they had 4 cores and next 4+ cores processor was 1000$ (thanks Intel). Now when we have 16/32 in desktops having pathetic 2 64bit 4 32-bit channels DDR5 memory kills all the performance from those cores. You already struggle to bump memory speeds and lower memory latency, may as well allow people to buy less clocked (more cheaper) memory modules and having more memory as a bonus. Like instead of buying 2 16G DDR5 6000 modules you could have 3 8G DDR5 4800 modules and have both better performance, more memory and even maybe lower price.

[IsolatedOctopi]

AMD Threadripper is the competitor of Intel Xeon, not a consumer CPU perse

on Intel Xeon you find

• 2 memory controllers per CPU
• 3 memory channels per memory controller (6 memory channels per CPU = 12 memory channels in a dual CPU system)

DDR5 memory actually has 2 channels per stick,

so when using Intel socket 1700 CPUs with DDR5, you're essentially getting a quad-channel setup.

AMD AM5 CPUs also support up to four channels of RAM, again, only if they are running on systems that use DDR5 memory.