Intel Announces Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake CPUs

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Intel Announces Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake CPUs

As part of a busy day in the CPU world, Intel has lifted the embargo on the Core Ultra 200S "Arrow Lake" desktop processors. This isn't the review embargo but just an overview on this new generation succeeding 14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh" on the desktop.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-core-ultra-200-arrow-lake

[raystriker]

Do these get AVX512 or not?

[blackshard]

Do these get AVX512 or not?

Don't think so, it was never advertised anywere so I guess the E-core base design is still the same, thus no AVX-512 for the whole package

[scottishduck]

If these are anything like the recent Xeons it’s going to be a very interesting generation

[chuckula]

Very good for efficiency and most consumer-level workloads, especially when there is an option for non-gaming graphics, and that is the intended market.

Probably less exciting for scientific workloads with the lack of AVX-512 though.

[loganj]

now lets see how good are these vs amd 9000 for power consumption and performance/watt

[sophisticles]

Intel talked up Arrow Lake as being able to deliver the same performance of Raptor Lake Refresh at half the power consumption. While there is no Hyper Threading (HT / SMT) support, with 24 cores Intel is promoting Arrow Lake as being faster than the Core i9 14900K 32-thread processor.

This is a winning strategy and compelling selling point, the same performance at half the power consumption and faster with less execution resources.

Just what the doctor ordered.

[Leahi84]

So it's going to be focused on reducing power usage/efficiency and not so much on performance. I'm completely okay with this as energy usage of current computer hardware is way too high. AMD is doing the same thing they just did a really poor job of handling their message about Zen 5.

[avis]

Given that this is the first true new uArch from Intel since 2021, the new P core just fell short.

I've no other words to describe ARL.

You don't release a new gen of CPUs that basically matches the previous gen performance wise.

Even when Intel rehashed SkyLake over and over again, they posted higher gains for the same period of time.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

The pricing on the 265K is pretty good, will be interesting to see how it compares to the AMD 7900X / 9900X performance wise. Too bad about the iGPU and NPU performance (other than mature Linux drivers for the GPU). With all the important bits coming from TSMC fabs, this could have been a really interesting generation if they managed to cram in LL gen iGPU / NPU and AVX-512 support.

Tangential, but I've been super disappointed in looking over some AMD X870 / X870E motherboards. They have really tried to ratchet up things like additional PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots, but you better pay close attention to what gets downgraded or completely disabled based on what you plan to use. Crap tons of shared bandwidth caveats that are worse than what we saw with X670E. PCIe lanes don't grow on trees.