AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370: 100+ Benchmarks Validate Zen 5's Captivating Power Efficiency & Performance

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  • Michael
    Phoronix
    • Jun 2006
    • 14308

    #11
    Originally posted by loganj View Post
    btw is 370 the top of these zen5 laptop cpus? or is there suppose to be higher model?
    The Ryzen AI 9 365 and Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 are the current Ryzen AI 300 series... There was leaks/rumors of the Ryzen 9 AI HX 375 in recent days with better NPU but otherwise the same as the 370.

    Yeah looks like 375 is now listed on AMD with same specs as the 370 besides the NPU - https://www.amd.com/en/products/proc...-ai.html#specs
    Michael Larabel
    https://www.michaellarabel.com/

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    • avis
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2022
      • 2252

      #12
      Originally posted by loganj View Post
      nice power consumption. but the score are not that high compare to previous gen considering it has 4 more cores. at least not for CPU part. if you consider performance/watt then yes everything looks amazing. but i also look at 12core vs 8 cores and that doesn't look that much amazing. those 8 c cores are not that greate i guess. or maybe the cpu governor/whatever need more improvments.
      on the GPU side seems to do a very nice job. but also there are more CU to the gpu. at least on gpu side more CU seems to translate in more performance. but again the power consumption is so much lower the prev gen and if you consider both performance and CU increase.....

      but anyway... AMD sure did a very good job.
      now i wonder if intel will be better

      thank you for very nice benchmarks.
      Yeah, I was about to say the same, the new part has 50% more cores yet it doesn't excel over 7840HS/U that much.

      It's extremely power efficient though, I'll give it that. Zen 4 owners may not need to apply, previous generations laptop owners will see massive improvements.

      Overall a decent job but I expected a tad more. It's kinda jarring to see 7840HS beating this new CPU in multiple benchmarks. I don't remember that being the case previously.

      As a 7840HS owner, I'm looking forward to Zen 6/RDNA 4.0 or if Intel finally digs itself out of the grave, whatever Intel comes up with next (and I'm not talking about Lunar Lake).

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      • peterdk
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 203

        #13
        Awesome. Really looking forward to the release of desktop Zen 5. Power efficiency kept me from Zen 4, I am hoping it will be the same improvement on desktop.

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        • ET3D
          Phoronix Member
          • Jun 2020
          • 73

          #14
          Originally posted by avis View Post
          Yeah, I was about to say the same, the new part has 50% more cores yet it doesn't excel over 7840HS/U that much.
          I imagine that the reason is that most of the cores are Zen 5c cores. I feel that AMD went the Intel way of more cores with less performance per core. Having more cores is probably a selling point regardless of performance.

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          • avis
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2022
            • 2252

            #15
            Originally posted by peterdk View Post
            Awesome. Really looking forward to the release of desktop Zen 5. Power efficiency kept me from Zen 4, I am hoping it will be the same improvement on desktop.
            Zen 4 was quite power efficient, the problem for me was that it ran too hot. 95C that AMD claims is safe temperature doesn't look and sound safe to me. Maybe it's indeed safe but I'm far from sure the the thermal paste can withstand such wild temperature swings on a frequent basis. My laptop with a Zen 4 APU is set not to exceed 80C. This gives me a peace of mind.

            Originally posted by ET3D View Post

            I imagine that the reason is that most of the cores are Zen 5c cores. I feel that AMD went the Intel way of more cores with less performance per core. Having more cores is probably a selling point regardless of performance.
            ​That is indeed the case, 8 out of 12 are Zen 5c cores but AMD claims they have the same IPC, it's just their L3 cache that is smaller and their maximum frequency is lower (just 3.3GHz according to AnandTech).
            Last edited by avis; 28 July 2024, 11:13 AM.

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            • halo9en
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 325

              #16
              Originally posted by Michael View Post
              As always, let me know of any other interesting test requests...
              Any idea if the HX 370 works with text-generation-webui and how it performs? Not sure if the npu is actually used, maybe cpu only/rocm?

              Oh and thanks for the excellent benchmarks!

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              • drakonas777
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2020
                • 532

                #17
                Originally posted by avis View Post

                Yeah, I was about to say the same, the new part has 50% more cores yet it doesn't excel over 7840HS/U that much.

                It's extremely power efficient though, I'll give it that. Zen 4 owners may not need to apply, previous generations laptop owners will see massive improvements.

                Overall a decent job but I expected a tad more. It's kinda jarring to see 7840HS beating this new CPU in multiple benchmarks. I don't remember that being the case previously.

                As a 7840HS owner, I'm looking forward to Zen 6/RDNA 4.0 or if Intel finally digs itself out of the grave, whatever Intel comes up with next (and I'm not talking about Lunar Lake).
                Both HX 370 and 7840HS are using the same lithography. HX 370 has a bigger die and this particular Strix laptop being a 28W limited manages to beat 50W Phoenix laptops. If you expected something more than this on the same node than you are delusional.

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                • SofS
                  Phoronix Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 88

                  #18
                  Any news about Pluton? It is suspiciously absent from all news I have been seeing, has it been dropped? If I am not mistaken, even Zen4 Threadripper​ and EPYC already do not include it.

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                  • Chugworth
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 389

                    #19
                    What sort of apps could take advantage of Ryzen AI? Could it potentially replace Frigate's need of a Google Coral chip?

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                    • royce
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 656

                      #20
                      Compared to the Ryzen 7 7840HS, nearly 35% power usage reduction for a 10% performance uplift. That's very impressive.

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