AMD Ryzen 9000 Series Launch Delayed To August

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  • sophisticles
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 2616

    #11
    During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations

    Mark my words, these will be buggy pieces of garbage and no one should buy them.

    These companies have many stages of quality assurance and the fact that they didn't catch it until after the first production run was already shipped to "channel partners" is worrying.

    Take a hard pass on this gen folks.

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    • sophisticles
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 2616

      #12
      Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
      Yeah. With the trainwreck presented from the other team, they'd be smart to present themselves as super quality conscious.
      But I don't mind. I'd take that over broken products any day.
      Except this actually is a broken product.

      A fool and his money are soon parted.

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      • sophisticles
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 2616

        #13
        Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
        Glad AMD caught what ever they did on time, I don't recall AMD releasing any Zen CPU architecture without some major problem. Hopefully this delay will allow them to have a clean launch.

        Zen 1: FMA3 crashing problems
        Zen 2: wrong frequencies, high voltage spikes(like 13/14 Gen Intel now), RdRand issue causing Linux distros/games not to run at launch
        Zen 3: USB Connectivity Issues which still haven't been fixed.
        Zen 4: XMP/EXPO profiles leading to sending excessive voltage to the CPU causing them to catch fire.
        Let's be honest with ourselves, AMD makes bench-marking CPUs that look good in a review when just looking at charts,

        When you want reliability you buy Intel.

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        • coder
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 8964

          #14
          Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
          Yeah. With the trainwreck presented from the other team, they'd be smart to present themselves as super quality conscious.
          But I don't mind. I'd take that over broken products any day.
          One potential upside for AMD is if it gives reviewers a chance to compare against the mitigated Raptor Lake. I think it's still going to launch a bit early for that, but one theory about why Intel is dragging its feet on releasing the patched microcode to address Raptor Lake's instability problems is so that reviewers would compare Zen 5 against unpatched Raptor Lake i7's and i9's.

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          • and.elf
            Phoronix Member
            • Oct 2023
            • 64

            #15
            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

            Let's be honest with ourselves, AMD makes bench-marking CPUs that look good in a review when just looking at charts,

            When you want reliability you buy Intel.
            But not gen 13 or 14, as they seem really unreliable..

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            • coder
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 8964

              #16
              Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
              Zen 4: XMP/EXPO profiles leading to sending excessive voltage to the CPU causing them to catch fire.
              It catastrophically failed, but didn't catch fire. Seemed to be limited to a small number of incidents and was quickly addressed by an AGESA update.

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              • coder
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 8964

                #17
                Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
                Mark my words, these will be buggy pieces of garbage and no one should buy them.
                Okay, words marked.

                I hope you're getting paid to carry water for Intel like that, bro.

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                • coder
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 8964

                  #18
                  Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
                  When you want reliability you buy Intel.
                  You really can't say that unironically, in the face of the current Raptor Lake degradation fiasco.
                  It's an unmitigated disaster... at least for nearly another month.

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                  • WannaBeOCer
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2020
                    • 309

                    #19
                    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

                    Let's be honest with ourselves, AMD makes bench-marking CPUs that look good in a review when just looking at charts,

                    When you want reliability you buy Intel.
                    At the end of the day both are greedy corporations trying to make money. Buy what’s best for you. Depending on how Intel handles this situation I might be going ARM next.

                    I was planning to buy a 5800X3D with a X570e motherboard but saw all the reports of USB issues. I also remembered that awful RX 5000 series launch where it took them 6 months after GamersNexus rant to fix their drivers. They were completely quiet, at least Intel gave updates and tried multiple solutions and finally fixed the horrible MCE issue with all their motherboard vendors while looking into Raptor lake issues.



                    I bought a 12700k at launch and haven’t had any issues. While many people with Zen 3 still complain about the USB bug.
                    Last edited by WannaBeOCer; 24 July 2024, 09:30 PM.

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                    • coder
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 8964

                      #20
                      Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
                      at least Intel gave updates and tried multiple solutions and finally fixed the horrible MCE issue with all their motherboard vendors while looking into Raptor lake issues.
                      Nope. Intel doesn't get credit for fixing this, yet.

                      Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
                      When you have to cite a 4-year-old video, it's a clue that you might be living in the past.

                      AMD isn't the same company it was, 4 years ago. The company was badly diminished by its financial problems that only started to turn around after the launch of Zen (realistically, it took until Zen 2 before AMD really started regaining market traction). Michael has been reporting on how AMD seems to have finally gotten ahead of new hardware launches, for once. I'm not trying to say that AMD's problems are all behind it, but I have a lot more faith in them than ever before.

                      Really, it's now Intel that's starting to worry me. I always figured that, no matter how hot and inefficiently their CPUs ran, at least they would be reliable. Lately, it seems we can't even count on that much.

                      Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
                      ​I bought a 12700k at launch and haven’t had any issues.
                      Yup. It seems like Gen 12 was the last good one they had. Meteor Lake underperformed so badly they had to cancel the desktop version. Raptor Lake seems to be a slow-moving trainwreck. Really makes it seem like their manufacturing problems didn't end back in 2021, like we all thought.

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