AMD Ryzen 7 7840U Windows 11 vs. Linux CPU Performance

[mSparks]

Wow, now you not only design infrastructure, building etc. in blender, but electronic too!!

I dont design any infrastructure, companies I work with do tho, healthcare infrastructure, devices and medicines from Chicago to Jakarta.

but yes, thats the way it goes,
e.g. blenderbim

https://youtu.be/kYs6w5LlfNM

KiCad to Blender

https://youtu.be/RcMIcRqMWn8

They are a couple of the more popular ones, the mainstay of all of them is still generally MS Excel tho which is why they call me in... sadly. I cant switch most of them to libreoffice until they sort the random number generator out.
Although most of the German government machines are all Linux now, as are several other CEE countries. EU law requires submissions and procurement in open standards. (yes, the EU has basically made buying new windows machines and software like autodesk a crime... lol.)

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/eprocurement/open-standards-ict-procurement

How much would the equivalent cost from autodesk and why should anyone spend the money on it rather than a fully customised pipeline specific to their needs?

And again, why would you run any of them on a mobile chip like the 7840U (besides wanting to be able to open them on the go)

[HEL88]

Pretty much every civil and electronic engineering company I have worked with has switched to a blender + plugin pipeline in the last 3 or 4 years,
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Wow, now you not only design infrastructure, building etc. in blender, but electronic too!!

You are funny guy. I've never met a liar like you.

Then tell us what blender plug-ins contain electronic components, allow for simulation and analysis of electronic circuits, have modules for automatic PCB design support with EMI consideration - that is, such an industry standard. I'm waiting.

Because there are a lot programs for Windows. Almost nothing form Mac.

And yes, again there will be companies and programs that have been on the market for several dozen years like Altium Designer , NI Multisim with NI Ultiboard, Allegro Platform, OrCAD etc.

[mSparks]

Mate, we talking about GNU/Linux, on desktop, not phone, or anything else.

Yeah yeah, if you exclude the fact windows is failing or failed in every single mainstream computing market and sales have been falling 20% year on year for nearly a decade.

Windows still has some market share, honest to god.

lol.

The AMD 7840U is a low power mobile chip, not a desktop one.

And you're still talking about one. Blender, blender, blender.

Because blender and python plugins do everything those multiple expensive autodesk products do.
And more.
For free. (although the training and customised workflows aren't)

Pretty much every civil and electronic engineering company I have worked with has switched to a blender + plugin pipeline in the last 3 or 4 years, most of their staff then switched to mac to escape windows.

Im sure there are still some hold outs, but no one is starting out with autodesk anymore.

Engineering is not only a drawing, but also legal requirements for facilities, taking into account applicable standards, cost estimates, taking into account the business environment - e.g. what types of steel, concrete, composites are available in a given area, what ballasts, in what shapes and with what strength are available steel shapes and at what prices, etc.
All these parameters and the budget determine the shape of the project.

which they plugin their existing excel worksheets for that into blender.
what's your point?
And what does it have to do with mobile CPU chips like the 7840U?

[HEL88]

well, yeah, because blender was here 6 years ago

https://youtu.be/xsICO7tLOMc

and anything from autodesk can still only dream of a similar pipeline. They waited to long to adapt to market trends and got left behind.

I wonder how long it took you to realise you couldnt pick the "gotos" like office or photoshop. Bet that was hard on your cognitive dissonance.

Meanwhile billions of people are using chrome/firefox/vivaldi/brave on linux.

If you have reasonably high end mobile device sporting Googles linux distribution or iOS you can dock it to turn it into a fairly decent workstation (the role windows used to fill), this benchmark shows that if you need some more heavy lifting and dont want to go for a full fledged linux desktop or mac studio, there isn't anything in this chip that hurts perf on Linux, so OK to buy an OSless laptop with it and install linux.

61 hardly used, outdated, overpriced products from Autodesk isnt going to save Windows from its current 20% YoY declines.

Why are you still talking about blender? Only blender and blender.

In Autosesk, apart from the graphical 3D Studio or Maja, there are 60 other programs covering various fields of engineering and project management in this field.

Engineering is not only a drawing, but also legal requirements for facilities, taking into account applicable standards, cost estimates, taking into account the business environment - e.g. what types of steel, concrete, composites are available in a given area, what ballasts, in what shapes and with what strength are available steel shapes and at what prices, etc.
All these parameters and the budget determine the shape of the project.

And the software, e.g. Civil 3D, is to help you go through the difficult process.

And you're still talking about one. Blender, blender, blender.

Meanwhile billions...

And you forget: 100% top500 works on linux.

Mate, we talking about GNU/Linux, on desktop, not phone, or anything else.

[avis]

The level is so low that I'd rather give you your little trophy. Congratulations on your ad verecundiam arguments

Linux fans are notorious for making it personal when they run out of arguments. So, you've posted literally nothing of essence. Is there anything factual you'd rather add? No? I thought so.

[paulocoghi]

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The level is so low that I'd rather give you your little trophy. Congratulations on your ad verecundiam arguments

[mSparks]

61 different programs, and you come up with blender and python.

well, yeah, because blender was here 6 years ago

https://youtu.be/xsICO7tLOMc

and anything from autodesk can still only dream of a similar pipeline. They waited to long to adapt to market trends and got left behind.

I wonder how long it took you to realise you couldnt pick the "gotos" like office or photoshop. Bet that was hard on your cognitive dissonance.

Meanwhile billions of people are using chrome/firefox/vivaldi/brave on linux.

If you have reasonably high end mobile device sporting Googles linux distribution or iOS you can dock it to turn it into a fairly decent workstation (the role windows used to fill), this benchmark shows that if you need some more heavy lifting and dont want to go for a full fledged linux desktop or mac studio, there isn't anything in this chip that hurts perf on Linux, so OK to buy an OSless laptop with it and install linux.

61 hardly used, outdated, overpriced products from Autodesk isnt going to save Windows from its current 20% YoY declines.

[avis]

Neither your message nor mine were talking about Windows vs Linux marketshare. But since you brought it on, here is two things:

1. In many scenarios, Windows is more advisable to use. The same goes the other way around. There are a lot of factors, both technical and personal, and this is so obvious, that I was not talking about that. Your argument seems childish considering the context.

2. For the scenarios both operating systems serve (and Linux has served me perfectly for over 15 years), fluidity certainly counts in favor of Linux as a factor in the decision making. Simple as that.

How difficult it is for people today to agree on simple facts.

Speaking of facts:

Fluidity is still on the Windows side as it offers HW acceleration of almost everything under almost all scenarios. In Linux HW acceleration is a huge hit and miss. HW accelerated video decoding is not available for NVIDIA users and not because it's not available but because both Chrome and Firefox have deliberately not enabled it.

And I have a ton of doubts about "served me perfectly". I'll just call it a blatant bluff.

But since you're quite invested in being a dedicated Linux user, that might indicate fanboyism, thus bias, thus skewed a perception and sprinkle of lies.

I've been a Linux user a little bit longer, for more than 25 years now. Sorry to break it to you but as a constant bug reporter and debugger I hate lies.

[paulocoghi]

If ~10% or so higher performance is everything you need from the OS I've got bad news for you: the Linux market share on desktop remains in low single digits.

People choose something which works better, not something that performs marginally better. But yeah, you can boast about Linux performance to your Windows friends. You know what they'll do? They will simply shrug off your achievements.

Neither your message nor mine were talking about Windows vs Linux marketshare. But since you brought it on, here is two things:

1. In many scenarios, Windows is more advisable to use. The same goes the other way around. There are a lot of factors, both technical and personal, and this is so obvious, that I was not talking about that. Your argument seems childish considering the context.

2. For the scenarios both operating systems serve (and Linux has served me perfectly for over 15 years), fluidity certainly counts in favor of Linux as a factor in the decision making. Simple as that.

How difficult it is for people today to agree on simple facts.

[HEL88]

Billions of people using Autodesk.... software written 20 years ago and totally eclipsed by fully open source solutions like Blender + Python

Mate, on Windows are 61 products for engineers like eg: Auocad, Civil 3D, CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics), Infrastructure Design Suite, LandXplorer, Navisworks, Plant Design Suite, BIM, Revit LT, Robot Structural Analyst etc.

61 different programs, and you come up with blender and python.

And you're talking about some enigmatic open source counterparts that don't exist.

You've humiliated yourself. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Typical screaming fanboy of you. Screaming nonsense.

20 years ago

A Autocad has 40 years not 20. Just like CATIA. Siemens NX has 50 years. That's why these programs are unbeatable for professional use.

Blender (now 30 years old) or StarOffice (40 years old, later OpenOffice) were commercial programs which the sources have been released.

Without such action, programs written from scratch have no chance with mature programs.

There is no open source program that can compare with commercial ones in the field of engineering.

Thanks for the rolling laughter.

The funny thing is that for 30 years of agitation and persuasion, linux which is supposedly 'the better' system for desktop has only reached 3% of the market. And only people related to IT use it, because others do not want it for free. This looks like a big failure, not a success.